[00:00:00] Speaker A: G'day, everybody. Welcome to Barrel Surf Podcast. Namu. Here with you this week on the show, we've got our Meet The Shapers episode. We recorded this at Paradiso Surf in Dunsborough and we got the chance to meet with a couple of awesome Shapers from the southwest of Western Australia. This week's episode, as usual, is brought to you by our usual sponsors. And we've also got Aziz's new business, Azzie's Plumbing and Gas. And of course, Dunbay homelands for all your homeland needs. Now it's on the show. Hey, Adsy. So Cheeky Monkey has been on board for a fair while now and I believe they are doing a bit of a discount for our listeners.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah, mate, if you go up to the Vass Brewing Facility in the industrial area there and you drop the name Barreled Serve Podcast, they said they'll do 10% off any takeaway sales and I assume 10% off over the woodwork too. But if you want to stop in there and grab some beer, yeah, 10% off. Tell them Barrel Surf podcast sent you.
[00:00:59] Speaker A: Just refresh my memory. What sort of situation have we got with Forester Estate? Long term supporters of the program?
[00:01:05] Speaker B: Mate, Forrester Estate will give you 25% off if you use Barreled in the coupon section of the internet sales department.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: That's in the checkout coupon if you're not sure what that means.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly, mate. 25 cent off. It's actually a pretty massive saving. It's almost wholesale, apparently what the shops will be buying it for. So you get free local delivery. Margaret River, Buso, dunsra. And if it's over $200, you get free delivery Australia wide.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: Sounds like a happy day, mate. Get them board, everyone.
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[00:01:44] Speaker A: Have been ripping into the AG Ones lately. All the vitamins and minerals that you need, all in one convenient sachet or convenient scoop. What about you, mate? You've been on the AG One program?
[00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah, mate, I start each morning with a little AG One. I go a little warm lemon water.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: In the morning, nice.
[00:02:03] Speaker B: Just to clean the liver of a few other sponsors and then ripping at the AG One and then in a breakfast and I'm out the door and on the building site ready to fucking go.
[00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll tell you, one thing I've noticed with that as well is the gut health is what I was talking about, Azzy. But, yeah, get on board the AG One and get on to Athleticgreens.com Barreled. Get all your goodies, get all your bonus products there and they'll obviously know that you've come through us, so thanks for that.
I have been putting some sharkeye sticks on my boards lately, ads here. Just giving me a little sense of security, I reckon when I've got those.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: Stickers on, mate, those guys are watermen of the highest order. They were commercial AB divers down on the south coast. They know the ocean as well as anyone and if they reckon it helps, then it helps. So I put sharkeye's stickers on the bottom of my boards. That's where it all began for them. They moved in a wetsuit, so wetsuits are awesome. We've talked about them get on them and yeah, can't hurt, man. It's got to be got to improve the ODS a little bit.
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[00:03:27] Speaker C: Yeehawe here and I'm with Namu. We're down at Paradiso Surf for meet the Shapers. A whole bunch of local Shapers.
First person I saw in the car park was a legend of the area.
Dave mano mannion from DMD Designs. Dave, how you been, mate?
[00:03:59] Speaker H: Good, thanks. T bones yourself, mate?
[00:04:01] Speaker C: Very well, thanks, mano. So we're here at meet the Shapers As I was saying, haven't we actually been thinking about you and talking about you on the podcast to come on, mate. So tell me, how long have you been shaping for? When did it all start for you?
[00:04:19] Speaker H: Started helping out Mike Campbell in his backyard when I was about 15 and then started making boards full time from about then on. But while I was doing apprenticeship as a cabinet maker as well. That's been about 46 years, but about 41 since I've been shaping and making boards, like, full time professionally.
[00:04:44] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, so whereabouts was that, mate? Was that down this region?
[00:04:47] Speaker H: No, that was up in Perthway. We started out in a little asbestos shed on a horse farm in Nangara Classic. Had to put the sprinkler on the roof before the sun came up so we wouldn't like, swelter. We didn't get it on in time. We'd have no work that yeah, so that was sort of pretty hardcore. I just learned the hard way, mate. Not taught by anyone. Just learn by your mistakes and you don't do it again.
[00:05:13] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you get a couple of clips over the back of the ear.
[00:05:16] Speaker H: No, just trying to teach yourself how to glass and stuff. It's pretty hectic.
[00:05:21] Speaker C: Yeah. Can you remember the actual first board you actually shaped and glassed and like an action order from someone?
[00:05:28] Speaker H: Yeah, I can remember the first ones.
The first four I did. I put in Parker's cycles in Karen Up shopping center.
I was only looking at photos of them the other day. They're full foam sprays all over gloss polish.
The old days when it was like two glass on side fins and a little mini six inch fin box for the center fin and just went from there, really.
[00:05:53] Speaker C: What was the sort of the boards?
40 years of shavings a long time. So let's say 30, 40 years ago, what was the sort of surfboards that were sort of the most popular?
[00:06:06] Speaker H: Yeah, well, it was a bit like Thrusters. Simon Anderson had just won Bells and so it was like most people were still riding single fins and twin fins. So me and MC, we've been riding twin fins heaps.
I think before I started Glassing, we got a couple done at Blacksals in Osmond Park and then got Santosha to finish a few.
And then Rob Allen, legend as he is, put these amazing sprays on him and and I remember seeing Mick Button, he must have been filler coating three boards at the same time. So I didn't know the difference between laminating and filler coating back then. So when I first started Glassy, I tried to laminate two boards at the same time. I've never tried that again. I got through it, but wasn't pretty.
[00:07:00] Speaker C: Like you're saying, once you made one mistake, you plan to not make it again.
[00:07:03] Speaker H: Yeah, that's right, mate. Definitely. For sure.
[00:07:07] Speaker C: Such a long shaping career, mate. So let's say the last ten years, to me, just being the average punter going to the surf shop, that seems like boards have just taken off like all the different models. I mean, it's so hard to keep up. What's your sort of well, how it's exploded?
[00:07:26] Speaker H: Well, it's the era since shaving machines came.
Um, there's still a lot know guys that just handshake, but you got to have models.
Mean the shaping machine, when Beanie bought it was a blessing. Took us all a couple of years to get our head around it. But you look back at the files on your computer back then compared to what you're doing now, and it's just chalk and cheese.
Not that they were bad boys, they're just very raw back then on the computer. So you'd clean them up a lot more when nowadays there's not much work to do. So that's been the biggest thing really, is just being after duplicate boards because without the machine, it's pretty hard to do consistent models all the know and get through them quick enough.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: Speaking of models, I mean, let's talk about your models, DMD designs. Dave Mannion, for people who've never heard of Mano, he's based in Dunsborough, obviously been shaping aboard a lot of time for a long time. So what are some of your models that are sort of a bit close to your heart, Dave, and your customers over the years?
[00:08:39] Speaker H: Well, right now there's probably most popular high performance model being called the D Train, or the drivetrain shortened to D Train. And then the one that I'm doing most of now is called the Dodo. It was designed as a step down to the D Train, a completely different rocker and concave set up.
And then just sort of boards were up north.
Got the Tomb Raider, the Dicky name, but it sort of stuck. It was a working title, but it stuck. And then there's the Rip Snorter that sort of gave birth of the Dodo. That was a performance. So if the D Train is a high performance board, the Rip Snorter is a good, easy to ride performance board and the Dodo is a performance fun board.
[00:09:28] Speaker C: So it sounds like a whole heap.
[00:09:30] Speaker H: Of others, but there's too many to talk about.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: Sounds like you know a couple of your favorite ones. So let's say if you're a surfer, even if you're visiting the Southwest or even going up north or Indo, what three boards would you sort of recommend out of your quiver? Surfboards shape? Just the ones you spoke about.
[00:09:48] Speaker H: Probably those three. Yeah, they're by far the most popular, and there's others that twin fins and two by ones. And I'm a bit slow at getting into the mids, but I've been doing a few mids now and.
[00:10:03] Speaker C: I don't.
[00:10:03] Speaker H: Know how many models I got.
It's one of those things, being a small shape, you can custom tweak any model to suit anyone to a certain extent. So just a matter of doing custom boards and listening to people, and if what they say doesn't make sense, you let them know. Rather than just doing your own thing, you got to give them what they want and then just establish your relationship then.
That's how you keep busy. As a small label, you got to have repeat clientele.
[00:10:35] Speaker C: Exactly, mate. So for the folk who are listening, who want to get hold of you, mano, what's the best way to get hold of you?
[00:10:42] Speaker H: Probably Instagram. All my details are on Instagram.
[00:10:45] Speaker C: What's your handle on Instagram?
[00:10:46] Speaker H: What do you call just DMD surf?
[00:10:48] Speaker C: DMD Surf.
Well, mano, it's been a pleasure to speak to you, mate, and have a beer with you.
Best of luck for the next 10, 20, 30 years shaping.
[00:11:00] Speaker H: Thanks, mate.
[00:11:01] Speaker C: Cheers. Cheers, mano.
[00:11:07] Speaker A: We are here at Paradiso Surf presents me the shapers and the brainchild of the man in front of me. Ash, I don't even know your surname. What's your surname?
[00:11:15] Speaker G: Ash Williamson.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Ash Williamson. He is a good man in town. He's got the shop here, Surf paradiso. Paradiso Surf. And is also putting on this incredible shindig. Mate, what gave you the idea to do this?
[00:11:31] Speaker G: Basically Instagram, you see it happen all around Australia and the world, and I was just like, oh, it'd be cool to do that locally, basically, with everybody in the Southwest.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: Well, it's a ripping afternoon. There's a couple of beers on offer as well.
So, mate, tell me a little bit about your journey. So you're from the States originally. When did you come over here? Where are you from over there?
[00:11:57] Speaker G: From Virginia originally.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:11:59] Speaker G: Virginia beach and then to the mountains. And then over here.
Came over in 2008, and it was basically, at the time, the exchange rate. It's probably pretty similar now, but it was cheaper to go to university here than it was to go in state in America. And dad was just like, you have to go to university or else join the Marines kind of thing. There's no way I'm joining the Marines.
Lucked out and saw Edith Cohen and whatnot and knew nothing about WA. And I was like, oh, I'll go there. Right.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: So that was 2008. Did you actually study?
[00:12:43] Speaker G: Yeah, kind of. I found university here extremely easy.
It was like one test and one essay a year.
[00:12:56] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: See, I went to university. I found it completely different. I found it incredibly hard. But I'm not a smart man, so that's probably why.
So you're in Perth when you first came?
[00:13:07] Speaker G: No bunbury.
[00:13:08] Speaker A: Okay, right.
[00:13:09] Speaker G: So we were bunbury for the first year and then we got robbed and broken into about five times.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Decided that's actually below average, mate.
[00:13:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. Yeah.
[00:13:18] Speaker G: Once they actually broke into our unit and ate the chicken out of the fridge.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Right.
[00:13:23] Speaker G: They didn't even take any money.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Raw chicken?
[00:13:26] Speaker G: No.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: Cold choke, dip, salmonella. That was good.
[00:13:30] Speaker G: I felt bad.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: So you moved down here, obviously.
[00:13:32] Speaker G: Yeah.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: Were you shaping at that point?
[00:13:34] Speaker G: No, I always knew I wanted to do it. Sorry.
I always knew I wanted to do I wasn't I specifically went to Edith Cohen to do the surf science degree.
[00:13:49] Speaker C: Oh.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: That's why there's only one test a.
[00:13:53] Speaker G: We can you should hit HOLTI up about.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:58] Speaker G: But basically got in with Albin at a party type thing. He was like, oh, go hit up Bam at the factory.
He'll give you a job.
And so I went in.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: The grumpiest man in surfing?
[00:14:16] Speaker G: Yeah, I went in.
[00:14:17] Speaker A: No, you're not really bad.
[00:14:18] Speaker G: As soon as I walked in, he told me to fuck off because it was a meeting.
It was a meeting between him and Augie. And I just walked in, oh, I'm looking for a job. Fuck off. And then I kept going back two or three times and each time he'd tell me to fuck off. And then I went there. He wasn't there. He was surfing. Him and Zach went surfing and the old glasser Charlie was like, Just clean something.
So I started sweeping up and when Bam came back, he was, oh, well, you can clean the next room.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: And then old school progression from just picking up a broom.
[00:15:01] Speaker G: Exactly.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: And look at you now, mate. So you obviously started with Bam. How long after you arrived in Australia was that?
[00:15:09] Speaker G: Probably two years.
[00:15:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Okay, because it seems like I've known you for fucking years. Obviously, we've known each other for a long time. So just progressed through the factory with Bam and started shaping or how did it work?
[00:15:25] Speaker G: Yeah basically cleaned the factory for six months for free and then progressed to doing FCS, Fins and Ding repairs and then thrown in the deep end with glassing as things happen and people leave or whatever it is. And yeah, just progressed from there and then got offered to take on a few accounts and rent some of the factory.
Pretty much everything I owes to Bam. He helped me get my residency and yelled at the ATO and Immigration. He literally told them it was a Gnarly phone.
I would not yell at the government like that.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah, just some background on Bam. He's a very good man. I've known Bam for about 30 years, but there is a sign in factory saying keep out, keep fucking out. And he is a little bit staunch when you go in there, even as good, mate, but he warms up pretty quickly.
Yeah, I pretty much do every time. Bring some cheeky monkey beer or some aesthetic greens in and he's always good. So you've got the retail shop here now, Paradiso Surf, how did that sort of come about? You obviously rented some space from Bam. Was it just a natural transition?
[00:16:46] Speaker G: Yeah, it was renting the space from Bam and then that was the full factory, beanie was moving out and all that kind of stuff. Oh, no, actually this is before Beanie moved out. It was just before COVID we were like, oh, we should probably get a little retail space in there somewhere.
And we worked out the old glassing bay, it's probably just big enough and moved things around.
[00:17:15] Speaker A: Well, that's right, because you're at the.
[00:17:16] Speaker G: Front of the and then we realized that street was pretty congested and not very good.
And then Dane was moving out from across the alley and I had a warehouse like way down the street storing blanks and all sorts of stuff. When we were doing the mayhems.
[00:17:39] Speaker A: It.
[00:17:40] Speaker G: Was kind of a no brainer that lease was ending, this one opened up so we just moved in and the whole front was set up pretty much for a retail space eco boutique or whatever was.
[00:17:53] Speaker A: That? Yeah, cool, mate.
[00:17:55] Speaker G: Kind of just fell apart.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: So how long have you had the retail space open?
[00:17:58] Speaker G: About a year.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Yeah, nice. And I believe it's going really well. How can people get a hold of you, mate, if they want to either purchase the board or come in and get some incredibly sexy equipment, clothing from you?
[00:18:11] Speaker G: Instagram, I guess, or email parody. So
[email protected] or parodiesosurf on Instagram.
Our phone still doesn't work.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Wow, you're not damn strategy, are you? Fucking hell.
[00:18:31] Speaker G: Yeah, I learned a lot from him, so there's lots of room to grow.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Nice. All right, so hit up paradiseurf. The instagram handle is paradise.
[00:18:43] Speaker C: Sorry, what's your instagram handle?
[00:18:44] Speaker G: Paradise. Surf, I believe.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Yeah, nice.
[00:18:47] Speaker G: And a website as well.
[00:18:49] Speaker A: Okay, so check online paradiseurf. And I believe you're getting a coffee machine shortly, mate.
[00:18:53] Speaker G: Yeah, yeah, we're going to put a little cafe in there and save some money.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Come for all your surf wear, your coffees, your surfboards, all your hardware produce.
[00:19:01] Speaker F: So surf.
[00:19:02] Speaker H: Good day everybody, it's Bugs here and.
[00:19:04] Speaker C: You'Re listening to Barreled Surf podcast, Mac. Now, first things first, mate, I heard that you were going to go watch the Barbie movie instead of coming to meet the Shapers and have a few beers with the boys. Is that?
[00:19:16] Speaker F: Yeah, yeah, it is actually. My wife, when I was in California with Bronte she went out and bought about seven tickets for the family and a couple of boyfriends in the mix as well. So I should be dressed up in pink right now and watching the Barbie movie, but thought we'd come here and meet some of the gang and had bigger fish to fry.
[00:19:40] Speaker C: Definitely not having a swipe at the Barbie because my daughters have been I reckon there's some good underlying messages there for females and young girls and stuff and for boys, apparently.
So, mate, meet the shapers. Have you been shaping much over the last couple of years?
[00:19:59] Speaker F: Yeah, in between traveling a bit and whatnot I've been shaping, I'll just do custom boards and it ticks along. Yeah, no, it's going okay. And got a bit of momentum at the moment. And I think this is fantastic, what Ash has got happening here. And, yeah, looking forward to how this is all going to pan out.
[00:20:20] Speaker C: Were you shaping during your tour days, mate, or was that something you picked up after you retired from World Professional Surfing?
[00:20:28] Speaker F: Yeah, no, I was shaping before I started the tour and I was actually riding my own boards for the first two years that I was on the World Tour. And actually the very first contest that I won in Brazil was riding my own boards. But then I've got to be a first.
Don't know, I was stoked. And, no, it wouldn't be richie Collins wrote his own board. There's a few Mr. Yeah.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: True. Definitely.
[00:20:55] Speaker F: There'd be more Michael Peterson, I'd say.
[00:20:58] Speaker C: Yeah, okay.
[00:20:58] Speaker F: Modern era.
[00:20:59] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:00] Speaker F: But I ended up riding for probably at least eight years, cole Adams boards, which worked pretty closely with Cole down here. And, yeah, that was a great relationship. And, yeah, Cole's still plugging away, I think, over on the East Coast.
[00:21:15] Speaker C: And do you have a model that's really popular with your customers coming to see you? Is there a certain model name, mate.
[00:21:25] Speaker F: You got yeah, well, I don't know if you know the movie, they call me Bruce, but my middle name is actually Bruce. So when I was making up some model logos with Ding Dave Inglett, we jokingly said, Why don't you do this? And the Bruce model? And we sort of said it as a joke and then he said, Why don't you do it? And I'm like, yeah. Radio and so that's probably the most popular model, the Bruce, which is what I basically ride myself.
[00:21:54] Speaker C: Is that like a regular board for you or is there a step up version to the Bruce or what is the Bruce?
[00:22:00] Speaker F: Yeah, it's just a fairly deep, single concave, performance oriented board, which has been my sort of go to at lefties and whatnot. And, yeah, it's a bit of an all rounder.
[00:22:16] Speaker C: Seems to be serving you well, that's for sure. What about if you venture up north and surfing a bit of juice, mate? What sort of boards do you sort of shape for yourself there.
[00:22:24] Speaker F: Yeah, well, that model is called the Mac Daddy, and there's a mac thrown in the mix. Usually with the yeah, the boards that I make for Nalu, I'd probably use a little bit less concave and put a bit of a double concave in it as well. And also pretty heavy boards with strong thick stringers and six ounce glass and made for paddle power and pintails, so you can try and make the drop and get a barrel.
[00:22:56] Speaker C: Sounds insane just on shapers. Your influencers, early days, who sort of gave you some tips to start shaping boards?
[00:23:04] Speaker F: In the first, I used to when I first started, I was doing ding repairs at Murray Smith Surfboards and so Murray was probably the main early influence, but that was probably backed up later. I worked closely with Cole Ladams and then I stopped for about eight years and then started up again once I finished the tour. So Mark Ogram helped me out a lot there, so they'd probably be the two biggest influences, murray Smith and Mark Ogram.
[00:23:34] Speaker C: Can you remember your first board you shaped yourself?
[00:23:37] Speaker F: Yeah, it's probably not real pretty, but I think I surfed it in a state round and got maybe second or something at South Point. So, yeah, I've still got a photo of that old thing to me over.
[00:23:54] Speaker C: The last few years, it looks like we've done a 360. There's a lot more people riding twins and singles and all funky type of boards.
How have you found the whole surfboard evolution? You feel like it's done 360 almost?
[00:24:07] Speaker F: I do, yeah. I mean, for sure, the twin in particular, which I rode for a while, murray Smith, made me a really nice twin fin back in the day and I loved them, but I went from a single fin to a twin fin and not thruster to a twin fin, so I guess that's a bit of a different story. But, yeah, certainly. I see a lot of twinnies and single fins and alternative craft down at lefties there and it's cool, but I feel like down here that thrusters kind of still hold their own.
But then if you want to go surf, I don't know, Castle Rock or PK or somewhere over there, then definitely that's where they come into their own, I think.
[00:24:51] Speaker C: Now, you mentioned before when BMAC was dominating in Belliito, you were up north. How'd you go up there, you get.
[00:24:57] Speaker F: Some good waves, got some fun ones. Yeah. Didn't get much in the way of barrels, but it was good fun.
Did a lot of turns, a lot of reentries and stuff. But, yeah, plenty of swell. Didn't get the epic conditions that we got in 2020 when it was absolutely pumping during that COVID year.
So didn't quite get that to that level. But, yeah, still always a great trip up there and yeah, we got to watch Bronte in the desert. I think I watched just the semi final. We watched that up at the shop at Nalu at Three Mile and then Sheridan, one of my neighbors, had a satellite internet set up, so there was about three families with Grommets, all Watson bronte in the final, which was just a fantastic atmosphere and yeah, it was really good. And thanks to Sheridan for setting that up for us.
[00:25:50] Speaker C: Yeah. So were you over at Webb?
[00:25:53] Speaker F: Yeah, I went to Huntington, just been back for about a week and a half and yeah, that was a great trip. We've got a lovely family that we stay with down in Sacramenti and just do the drive up to Huntington every day and yeah, Huntington was actually pretty good because they haven't had much swell there, so the swells that they get create the gutter at Huntington, so no one had to do the Huntington hop this year. The banks are actually just like kind of normal.
[00:26:17] Speaker C: Yeah.
And what was takeaways? I mean, bronte, what she get to round 32 or around six?
[00:26:27] Speaker F: Yes, she got a 9th, so round of 16. So it was an okay result. In fact, it was her second best result this year, but coupled with the first that she had in Bolito, like a first and a 9th is still better than a second and a fifth or two thirds, so it still kept her in fifth place at the moment. She still need to finish strong in the last two events, portugal and in Brazil.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: Brazil, yeah. So you're going to both events?
[00:26:51] Speaker F: I'm going to do Portugal. My wife and I are going there and then she'll skip off to Brazil by herself.
[00:26:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I thought you might have went to Brazil as well, because you had a bit of success there.
Yeah, cheers.
[00:27:03] Speaker F: No, I did offer, but I think all the flights and everything's pretty expensive, so she's pretty comfortable going there and she's got a good spot to stay and stuff, so, yeah, she's all sorted.
[00:27:15] Speaker C: We'll be backing her in and wishing her all the best and, yeah, we'll be stoked to be Mac to get through the next two events and make it onto the women's CT. And it's so cutthroat that final five to go into the tour.
[00:27:30] Speaker F: It's brutal.
I feel like they could have equal numbers, men and women, and it might mean trimming the men a little bit, like maybe have 24 men and 24 women in the CTS and throw the cut away. And that's my two cent worth for.
[00:27:47] Speaker C: The whole you never know. Now ELO's been given the punt, maybe that might change, I don't know.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Dave, any thoughts about taking on the CEO position, mate, for the WSL?
[00:27:59] Speaker F: No, mate.
[00:28:00] Speaker C: I suppose if I could do it.
[00:28:01] Speaker F: From home and surf lefties, that'd be okay.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: Rabbit did it from Queensland, didn't he? So I'm sure he could do well.
[00:28:09] Speaker F: Yeah, there you go. I think hopefully it'll be in good hands and yeah, I'd love to see the numbers up increase in the women's. I think it's overdue and I think no brainer. It's a no brainer.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Men increase the women.
You're obviously keeping an eye on the rankings. What's your thoughts on Chippo getting through next year?
[00:28:28] Speaker F: Oh, yeah, I think he hasn't officially made it, but I would say he pretty much has made it and so happy for Chippo. It's been a long road to get there and he's obviously been in lots and lots of CTS already and made quarters and stuff like that. So I think he looks so strong now and he's so mature and I think he could have a really good, solid career on the CT.
Dave, it's.
[00:28:57] Speaker C: Been stoked catching up with you again. Just going back to the boards, mate. If anyone listening wants to get hold of a Bruce or a Mac daddy, what's the best way to get hold of you, mate?
[00:29:08] Speaker F: Yeah, just check out the website, DMAC Surfboards and give me a call and come and see me or have a chat and we can rip it out.
[00:29:16] Speaker C: Just wait till you get back from Portugal. Right?
[00:29:18] Speaker F: Yeah, well, I'm going in two weeks.
[00:29:21] Speaker C: So yeah, sick, mate. Thanks very much for joining us again on Barrel Surf podcast. All the best, Macca.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: Cheers.
[00:29:26] Speaker F: Thanks a lot, guys. It's good to see you again.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: We have a bunch of frothing grommets on a little green couch. Now we're going to go to every grommet. I want your name, your age, and your favorite shaper. All right, go number one. What's your name, your age, and favorite shaper?
[00:29:51] Speaker E: I'm Dane. I'm twelve years old and I'd probably have to go with Jr. Jr. You.
[00:29:59] Speaker C: Got a particular model that you like?
[00:30:00] Speaker E: Oh, yeah, I'm getting one made right now. I don't really know the model, I have to ask my friend, but yeah.
[00:30:08] Speaker C: All right. Thanks for that, Dane. All right, cruise.
[00:30:12] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:30:12] Speaker E: I'm Cruz, twelve years old and is it the shape is here? Is it the shape?
[00:30:18] Speaker C: It can be any shaper, mate. That's your favorite shaper from here.
[00:30:22] Speaker E: Do both, I reckon.
AWOL, reckon pretty good.
[00:30:26] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:27] Speaker E: And then all up lost.
[00:30:30] Speaker C: Now, what's your favorite model? You got a favorite what's your current board that you're riding now?
[00:30:35] Speaker E: Driver 3.0 you like it? Love it.
[00:30:38] Speaker C: Is that a roundtail or squash?
[00:30:41] Speaker E: Rounded squash.
[00:30:42] Speaker C: Yeah. I think you're surfing better than dad now, right?
[00:30:45] Speaker E: Don't know.
[00:30:48] Speaker C: Dad must go retire. He's ripping. All right, pass the mic on.
[00:30:54] Speaker E: My name is Jordy. I'm twelve years old and I'd have to go with Ash from AWOL.
[00:31:01] Speaker C: And have you got a favorite board, Jordy?
[00:31:03] Speaker E: Yeah, I'd have to go the Little Ripper model, which is my own model.
[00:31:06] Speaker C: What's the model called, mate?
[00:31:08] Speaker E: Little Ripper.
[00:31:08] Speaker C: Little Ripper. Explain the little ripper.
[00:31:11] Speaker E: I don't know. We just kind of came up with it, like from the boards I've been riding and stuff.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: It's a little high performance. Little board.
[00:31:18] Speaker E: Yeah. Little high performance.
[00:31:19] Speaker C: Just a little small, little ripping waves.
[00:31:21] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:22] Speaker C: Sick, mate.
[00:31:22] Speaker E: Bit of a grovelr.
[00:31:24] Speaker C: That's pretty sick. Having your own model?
[00:31:25] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:31:26] Speaker G: Good.
[00:31:27] Speaker C: Nice one. All right, who's next?
[00:31:30] Speaker E: Hi, I'm Reese, I'm twelve years old and my favorite surfer would probably have to be Jr shaper. Sorry? Jr. Nice.
[00:31:41] Speaker C: And have you got a favorite model from Jr or what are you riding now?
[00:31:47] Speaker E: I'm riding a Matte Manners now, but yeah, pretty good.
[00:31:52] Speaker C: What do you like most about Jr?
[00:31:55] Speaker E: How he supports the groms. Good.
[00:31:58] Speaker C: That's always good, isn't it? Supporting the groms?
[00:32:00] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:32:01] Speaker C: All right, who's this little grom munching? A hot dog behind you in between hot dogs, mate. What's your favorite shaper? Firstly, what is your name and how old are you?
[00:32:10] Speaker E: My name is Billy and I'm twelve years.
Nine or twelve?
Let's just say nine then I said twelve. All right.
My favorite shaper here is probably Nathan Rose.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: Nice, mate, nice.
Do you have a favorite model?
[00:32:36] Speaker E: My favorite board?
[00:32:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Favorite model of Nathan's.
[00:32:40] Speaker E: Really? Pyzel.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: Pyzel. And I hear you like big waves.
[00:32:45] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:32:47] Speaker C: Have you got a what's the biggest wave you served?
[00:32:51] Speaker E: Maybe like five foot.
[00:32:54] Speaker C: Whereabouts was that?
[00:32:56] Speaker E: I'm not sure. What it's called?
[00:32:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll keep it secret. All right.
Sounds sick, mate. Now you got a bigger grommet next year, you want to hand the mic over the bigger grommet?
Yeah.
[00:33:08] Speaker F: I'm Ozzy.
[00:33:08] Speaker C: How are yours? Good, thanks.
16.
[00:33:12] Speaker F: Favorite shaper. Got to go with Clayton Shapes from over east.
[00:33:16] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:33:16] Speaker F: Been shaping my boards for a few years now.
[00:33:18] Speaker C: Sick.
[00:33:19] Speaker F: And they go pretty well over here and over there.
[00:33:21] Speaker C: Nice, mate. And is a particular model. Have you got your own model, like Jordy here or? Yeah, no, I'm not that special, but.
[00:33:29] Speaker F: Yeah, definitely try and get my boards fitted to me.
[00:33:32] Speaker C: Nice. So, yeah, all custom and yeah. Nice one, mate. Well, it's a great little event here, all the shapers. Have you spoken to any shapers while your grommets have been down here or no. Clean up your next free board or what? Just got here.
[00:33:49] Speaker F: I'm sure these boys have been having a pick.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah, no worries, grommets. All right. Well, thanks for joining the Barrel Surf podcast. Tell all your mates. All right, cheers, boys.
I'm here with Chappie, better known as the Chapstar Surfboards. Chappie, long time no see. How you been, mate?
[00:34:14] Speaker I: Yeah, I'm good, mate. Good to see you today. And you, namu.
Good to see everyone actually today.
[00:34:25] Speaker C: It's sick to have all the local surfboard shapers having a few beers and talking about boards. Now about you, chappie. When did shaping start for you? How did it all come about, mate?
[00:34:38] Speaker I: For me, I was one of those kids that took to resin quite early.
[00:34:48] Speaker C: Fixing dings.
[00:34:49] Speaker I: Yeah, fixing dings in the shed out the back of mum and Dad's house.
And then I was lucky enough to score a job straight away from school polishing Ike in the surfboard at Blasters with Darryl Wilkes. Oh, nice and polishing. And then I just went from there to many know in Perth, mainly Hot Brews. Whose phone's that?
[00:35:22] Speaker C: It's yours, mate.
[00:35:25] Speaker I: Could be an order.
I would better take it.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Contain a load of chapters.
[00:35:34] Speaker C: So hot brews is that with Phil Asher?
[00:35:37] Speaker I: No, Phil Asher wasn't there when I was there.
[00:35:40] Speaker C: He just left. That's my first brand new board, actually.
[00:35:44] Speaker I: There was guys like Ado Shepherd, Dave Lewis. It was a great time up there.
That was good. The Hayes brothers were there, and Murray and a lot of fun times.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: It sounds like you learned a lot from a lot of different people. So when did you sort of make it full time surfboard shaping?
[00:36:06] Speaker I: I started in Perth, like, just doing my mates boards at Hot Brews and SSR Surfboards. And then I came down here. I was fortunate enough to get a job shano the sander at Yahoo, done his knee. They needed a sander.
I jumped on it, got down here, started sanding, and then Auggie could see the boards I was doing on the side. And yeah, he was the one that gave me the opportunity to put boards in the rack and it went from there.
[00:36:45] Speaker C: How long has it been now, mate, since you sort of come on kicked it off? Few years, probably.
[00:36:50] Speaker I: That would have been early. Ninety s thirty years plus.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: How many boards reckon you save?
[00:37:00] Speaker I: 5000.
I just clicked over. That's not a huge number, I know, but a lot of guys in our industry, there's guys doing bigger numbers, but in small WA, you got to hunt your orders. That's pretty much 5000 custom orders. So, yeah, I'm pretty happy. I was actually always told by this was from Darryl Wilkes that not to call yourself a shaper until you shape 5000 boards.
And I actually done that last week on one of the boards for in here.
[00:37:43] Speaker C: That's classic. So, out of those 5000 boards, mate, is there any particular models that have been really appealing to all your customers over the years? Or any models that you really enjoy shaping?
[00:37:57] Speaker I: Look, I like shaping a bit of everything. I don't like pigeonholing myself in a one model or style.
I love the performance stuff, I do love it. But also love doing the single fins and those different ones, the tow boards, guns.
You get bored if you're just doing one model and it makes you work. It makes you start thinking when you start going into different exactly.
[00:38:37] Speaker C: Just when you've been working by yourself here in Dunsborough, when you see the surfboard evolution and so many different models, and like you say, twin fins and guns, how are you getting your juices flowing to come up with some design ideas?
Just what, you're holding your left hand?
[00:39:04] Speaker I: No, look, I just love making surfboards.
[00:39:09] Speaker C: You got to have that passion, don't you?
[00:39:10] Speaker I: And all these shapers here wouldn't be doing it if they didn't love it.
It's a really hard industry when you got families and kids, but we just love it. We just love making boards.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: That is probably the most important thing, loving something, what you do. And I'm very envious of that, mate, because I can't say majority of people out there that go to work every day love what they do.
[00:39:41] Speaker I: Yeah, look, I do and you got to. You have to, or you wouldn't be doing it.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: One thing I know after a long time surfing Chappie is that when I get a new board, I still get that super stoke, that excitement when you pick up that fresh board and you smell the fiberglass that's still sort of emanating from the shape and must be a pleasure to sort of see that look in people's eyes when they pick up a new board. Still.
[00:40:08] Speaker I: Oh, yeah, that definitely keeps you going, seeing the buz from your customers.
But we get that buzz when we finish the board as well.
Every new board you finish, you get that little buz yourself.
[00:40:27] Speaker C: There's your board order.
Grab it if you want, mate.
[00:40:31] Speaker I: We can take if it's important. I'll ring back.
[00:40:36] Speaker C: So while your phone's ringing, Jabby, for people out there listening and want to get hold of a chapster surfboard, what's the best way to get hold of you?
[00:40:43] Speaker I: I reckon the best way would be come into AWOL surfboards paradiso surfboards in Dunsborough. And if they haven't got what you're after in here, they'll get hold of me and I'll come and talk.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: Sounds like a plan. Well, chappie, thanks for having a few words on the Barrel Surf podcast and all the best shaping and making surfboards and, yeah, stoked to catch up and have a few yarns.
[00:41:15] Speaker I: Thanks, guys, and love listening to your stuff.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: Thanks, buddy. It's always good to see each. And before we do go, what have you got planned for the Single Fin, mate? You got something special in the artwork?
[00:41:28] Speaker I: I haven't decided yet, but I got a few little ideas.
There's a few rumors that someone's coming over.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: Here we go. This is the Single Fin series involved.
[00:41:43] Speaker I: With, so we'll go in the position to say who it is or if it's out yet.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: We'll stop recording, you can tell us. Thanks, chappie.
[00:41:53] Speaker I: All right, thank you. Nami.
[00:41:55] Speaker C: I'm Nate Florence, and this is the Slab Tour, brought to you by the Barrel Surf Podcast. Mr. Vaughn, how you been, buddy?
[00:42:01] Speaker D: Yeah, well, mate, good morning.
[00:42:04] Speaker C: Have you been in the shaping bay this morning, mate? I see a little bit of little dust on your bit of foam dust sort of sprinkling through you.
[00:42:12] Speaker D: Yeah, we've been doing a bit of shuffling and organizing, getting stuff ready for the week.
So, yeah, now we're pumped, we're off to a good start.
[00:42:22] Speaker C: Nice one, mate. Nice one. So we're going to be dropping the Meet The Shapers podcast this week, local Shapers. And you got to have Von boards on. So, first question I wanted to ask you, mate, is what sort of surfboard designs have you been working on lately? Because I do notice on your Instagram you always got some different models popping up. What's been the flavor of the month?
[00:42:51] Speaker D: Good question.
I'll try to get to it the quick way, quick way around. But I feel like probably most exciting is within our performance range. We've got, like, an adaption of the old Jake file, which is called the 2020.
[00:43:10] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:43:14] Speaker D: So we're working on some artwork for that and the file is done and it's ready for market. So I'm really pleased to start offering that to the crew. So you'll probably see a bit more of that opening up on our socials.
[00:43:25] Speaker C: What is it, mate? Is it a short board? Is it high performance? What sort of craft is yeah.
[00:43:29] Speaker D: From that sort of high performance everyday battler. Yeah.
[00:43:34] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:43:35] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm pumped. I've been playing with it for probably five years now, trying to sort of get it all to gel and it's finally sort of come together. And then in the sort of Moonspoon and pinspoon range, we've come up with what we've done for you, which is nice win.
[00:43:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:54] Speaker D: Pretty psyched on that one, especially coming to the summer. It's a really exciting time for me because we've been sitting on that Moonspoon range for a couple of years now and just waiting for it to sort of for the nut to crack. And it has. And so now it's, like, just got a few more fingers to it. Few more branches to that range.
[00:44:20] Speaker C: Sick, mate. So for the people who don't know what the moon spoon is, describe the actual model for us.
[00:44:27] Speaker D: That was something, I think, the best way I describe it. If someone was to walk in, I kind of start with the stingray sort of rocker and sort of liken it to I feel like it's kind of got wings because there's so much movement in the bottom. So it rolls from a V into a single and back out through a V. And there's a lot of hidden sort of rocker in it, but it's still an old school fishy outline. It just seems to roll from one rail to the other and just kind of just keep picking up speed.
[00:45:00] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:45:01] Speaker D: That's how I sort of sell it when someone's in front of me like this stingray bottom. So we've had that and through the success of that rocker, we've sort of stretched it into the pin spoon and the long spoon.
[00:45:15] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:45:16] Speaker D: But it was kind of stuck there for a while. And now with a few customers coming in and seeking out more point and shoot style twins and more performance twins, we've come up with the Walt Twin, which something like Mike Feb would get onto and it would fit in his surfing. And then the Mg Twin for the point and really quite a contemporary step up twin.
[00:45:47] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:45:49] Speaker D: I'm excited in that range, mate.
[00:45:50] Speaker C: Yeah, it looks sick.
The Walt twin looks insane and I'm just frothing to get on mine.
[00:45:58] Speaker D: Yeah, it was really fun doing that with you when you came in last and we pulled up the screen and I really love spending giving my customers that time.
It's all shaped now and we'll likely put the color detailing on the deck this afternoon.
[00:46:14] Speaker C: Sick, Mike. Can't wait. Can't wait.
[00:46:17] Speaker D: It's moving along.
[00:46:19] Speaker C: I know you do a heap of other different types of models.
Just a question for you. Let's say someone's looking for a short high performance board. What sort of models do you have that you'd recommend?
[00:46:34] Speaker D: Thought high performance.
[00:46:37] Speaker C: That two to four foot, five foot range.
[00:46:44] Speaker D: I think you'd start in that with the Marcella. That's another one that we've been brewing away and hopefully get to really tell our story visually eventually. But it takes a lot of work and a lot of people to come together to do that. But the Marcella is really refreshing. The 2020 is kind of our fleet and what else would fit in there? Maybe the Rad Three would also sort of fit in there.
[00:47:15] Speaker C: Nice.
[00:47:15] Speaker D: And that's like your contest bracket and then the boards that the nucleus falls under that one. And it's quite elaborate.
[00:47:27] Speaker C: It really is.
[00:47:28] Speaker D: We're trying to pull that all together and hopefully we do that with the new website, which sick. We'll have a snippet of soon.
[00:47:37] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:47:38] Speaker D: Soon meaning hopefully this year.
[00:47:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay, mate. You're going to give your website a.
[00:47:42] Speaker D: Bit of an overhaul, a proper kick in the ass. Yeah.
[00:47:46] Speaker C: Is that right? Cool. So it's sick.
[00:47:53] Speaker D: Perhaps before Santa rocks up, but we'll see.
[00:47:56] Speaker C: Nice, mate. See what happens. That's something to look forward to. For all the punters out there that perhaps don't live locally, that can't come in and see you face to face, they can get online and do all the business online.
[00:48:09] Speaker D: Yeah, it's exciting. T Bone eight years in here now, so sort of stepping into a new sort of category of running the business and the brand is really refreshing and exciting for me. So, yeah, sort of puts a smile on my face and gives me some pace and some motivation to get up and keep going.
[00:48:35] Speaker C: Sick, mate. Yeah, you need that, don't you?
Those small wave high performance models sound sick. What about when you go sort of into your step ups and you want to go hunt some Indo or up north or even locally in Margaret River and yelling up area, what's your sort of step up go to? That's been a popular model for models.
[00:48:59] Speaker D: So before moving down, we would run with the Porto file, which was something that I handshaped back in Portugal when I was back there in the early 2000s sort of era.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Been with you for a while then, mate?
[00:49:15] Speaker D: Yeah, for a long time. So that's the porter and it's kind of hung around and done its time. And then after moving down here, jed Madison joined the team and Luke Saran, and there's a handful of other real heavyweights when the waves get serious. So we started evolving that. And so we've got the JMO two now, which is the signature file for Jed.
In my opinion, like as good as I feel like you could give it to anyone in Hawaii and they would be like, fuck, this is something else. And then we have the Anchovy, which we did with Luke Saraner, which started with Nanibia. So he was hunting donkey bay down. So we got a file for that dialed in. So there's always that.
[00:50:09] Speaker C: I love the look of the Anchovy. I told you that such a sleek looking pin tail.
[00:50:14] Speaker D: Yeah, we're proud of that one. And then we've got the Rad step, which is I feel like is like a good step up for your moderate surface because those sort of JM files and Luke's files are quite specific.
So then the Rad step and then if you've really kind of pushing yourself, we've got the Twig license from like seven to say from like seven foot up, we start tapping into Twiggy's files.
[00:50:48] Speaker C: Mate, it sounds like you've got the full quiver catered for from your beaches to your step ups. And if you want to go extra, extra large, then you've got your Tweak model. So you got it all, mate, it's heating up outside and summer is coming. Everyone loves a summer fun board.
[00:51:13] Speaker D: Yes, sir.
[00:51:14] Speaker C: Are we going? The Walt twin. Is that going to be the summer board of Fun?
[00:51:21] Speaker D: Put it this way, I've put it in my stocking, my wish list for my Christmas stocking.
I'm excited about that one.
We've got that one, which is going to be super fun. And then we're doing some fun work in the sort of high performance grovelers. So we've got a new one called a Nucleus.
[00:51:44] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:51:46] Speaker D: But I guess, well, we're doing a little team trip to Sumatra over Christmas and New Year's.
[00:51:53] Speaker C: Christmas. New year's.
[00:51:54] Speaker F: Yeah.
[00:51:55] Speaker D: We're going to there's a few of us, a few of the team guys, and we're going to boot it. We're going to be sick. We're going to be in Crewe at the Ujung Bungalows from the 24 December to the Eigth of Jan. Oh, you're.
[00:52:10] Speaker C: Doing a cold Christy new Year.
[00:52:12] Speaker D: Yeah. And we're going to go hunt some beaches.
I'm taking a few boards for the camp guys and I'll probably have room for a couple of boards in my bag. So this is a good time for me to answer that question. So I think for sure a Walt Twin and a 2020. I feel I'm done, mate.
[00:52:33] Speaker C: Well, that sounds pretty exciting.
[00:52:34] Speaker D: Yeah. So I'll think of you all.
[00:52:38] Speaker C: I reckon you're going to get pumping ways because I think it's going to be an epic late, late season. Like I've just had last few weeks through end of September, start of October, and it hasn't stopped pumping. And the word on the street it's a late, late, late season. Might keep going all the way to even potentially Christmas New Year, where you might get uncrowded pumping waves up there.
[00:53:04] Speaker D: Well, I guess we're looking to take like, a really good bunch of crew from within our brand and even outsource as well. So if anyone hears this and is interested to kind of get away through that period, just feel free to hit me up. Yeah, because we're going there to represent sort of WA and the brand and make a good connection with the camp. And my long term goal is to sort of be there each few years.
[00:53:35] Speaker C: Yeah. Right. So do you have a connection with the actual in? Someone in Crowey, like a local?
[00:53:43] Speaker D: We made a few boards for them.
[00:53:45] Speaker C: What's the camp called again?
[00:53:46] Speaker D: The ujung bungalows.
[00:53:48] Speaker C: Ujjung, okay, nice.
[00:53:52] Speaker D: I haven't been able to extend my invites to all the parents, obviously, because kids, Santa, New Year's.
[00:54:03] Speaker C: Fair enough.
[00:54:04] Speaker D: But we're digging around and if we can fill the camp with 16 people, that would be our dream. Well, perhaps not well, for the camp for sure, I guess for us, smaller numbers, but yeah, we're working as a team to put together a pretty fun trip.
[00:54:21] Speaker C: If anyone's listening want to get on board for a Christmas to crew, it could be an epic late season, you never know.
[00:54:32] Speaker D: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to it. I feel like it's well earned. And we'll go get some barrels just.
[00:54:39] Speaker C: Around the corner, mate.
[00:54:41] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:54:41] Speaker C: So just on if anyone wants to get hold of you to check out and your surfboards and for people that actually can't get in to see you face to face, you offer a virtual hookup option as well. Right?
[00:55:02] Speaker D: You do the yeah, we're on zoom now, so if we can't do it in person yeah, we schedule in a zoom call, and we get the board debrief and the introduction out the way. And just a great process and a good way to bring the customer into the shaping bay, walk them through the files and spend as much time as we need. And we've probably done maybe ten or 15 now. And it's great, it's refreshing and I'm getting used to it.
[00:55:37] Speaker C: I love it. And what I liked about it, even though that I was in HQ at the time.
[00:55:43] Speaker D: Yeah, we pulled it up.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: I liked how you pulled it up on your laptop and you pulled up this cool little animation of the surfboard and we could tweak it and do whatever with it and you could just get a nice little picture of it straight away, which he then emailed onto me later on. So that was pretty cool. That I've probably never got from another shaper before, so I like that little touch.
[00:56:08] Speaker D: Yeah. Thanks, mate. The way I see it, is in starting to understand it is that the surfers really are in control of and dreaming up what they are seeking out of the next board. So I'm sort of seeing myself as being contracted by you.
So I'm here to serve you in that case and really figure out what you need, but also lean into all your old boards and exactly bring you into that process so you're sort of part of it and understand what you're writing a bit more be more sort of involvement in that sense.
[00:56:47] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a good philosophy and a good way of thinking, mate.
[00:56:53] Speaker D: Yeah. I like to give input, but ultimately, if surfer really knows more than me about what they need, I can just help tweak it, dress it up nicely.
[00:57:03] Speaker C: Yeah. Nice, mate, nice.
I think getting a custom made surfboard if people out there haven't done it for a while yeah, it's definitely feeling, isn't it? Yeah.
[00:57:16] Speaker D: I don't get to do it often, unfortunately.
[00:57:19] Speaker C: 100%.
The best way we're going to let you go in a minute, but the best way for people to get hold of you is that through your IG account.
[00:57:28] Speaker D: Yes, instagram. So we're at Vonboards on Instagram and I'm active.
[00:57:34] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:57:35] Speaker D: And then it's still like the old site's still open, but we'll be hopefully shutting it down, but and then picking it back up later in the year. But easy to reach through those two channels.
[00:57:49] Speaker C: Cool.
[00:57:50] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:57:51] Speaker C: All right, Ryan, mate, it's been great chatting.
[00:57:54] Speaker D: Yeah, mate, thank you.
[00:57:55] Speaker C: Support your local shaper.
[00:57:59] Speaker H: Thanks.
[00:57:59] Speaker D: Barrel surf podcast. You guys are all time, mate. I'm a huge fan.
[00:58:04] Speaker C: Yeah, mate.
Thanks, mate.
[00:58:07] Speaker D: Good on you, lad.
[00:58:08] Speaker C: Cheers, Mike.
[00:58:10] Speaker A: See you.
[00:58:10] Speaker D: Say bye.
[00:58:18] Speaker C: Today I heard of the song so I cranked it up and I sang along. It was such a way out day, I made up my mind. You catch the rainforest importer, see the girl and the way you wave, it occurs to me there's no here's we'll be cruising through the burger and you find the chicken and if we wind up leaving back we'll stay out late you drink and try enforcer enforcer the girl and the heaven.
