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[00:00:52] Speaker D: Welcome to Bowserf Podcast. We've got a room full of beautiful people here at Yahoo. Surfboards.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Bowserf podcast. I would like to acknowledge the Wadani elders, the country on which we meet today. I extend this acknowledgement to elders across WA and thank them for caring for country over the millennia. Now, we've got a couple of people to welcome up, but before we do that, I'd like to introduce to you all the smooth, natural footer, the Wes Lane of Dunsborough, frank the Tank T bone collector.
All right. You've got a microphone for a little bit? I've got one for a little bit. Welcome, T Bone. Quick, we'll get a few words in before Eddie gets up here. You kind of need to all right, without further ado, the single fin wielding maniac, the carryover champion for the single fin division from 2003, I believe, at the Margaret River Classic, the plumber to the stars at Kennedy. Come on up here, budy.
I forgot to do the stings. When you come up, go back. All right, boys.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Thanks for coming, everybody. Stoked Friday, AVO. We're on the doorstep of summer. You wouldn't want to be anywhere else right now than Yahoo. Surfboards. Fuck, we all are surfers, man. We're core surfers. This is a core shop. Like, look around. There's just every craft under the sun. There's memorabilia. There's accessories. Like, I love this shop. For those that you don't know, I've done a lot of time in this shop, bought lots of boards, and I'm stoked that our first live potty is here, because it is an institution in a day and age where the surf industry can sometimes be debatable and can just be T shirt outlets. This is definitely not one of them, man. It's got shaping bays out the back. It may or may not even have a caravan where a pirate lives out the back who shapes every now and then. It's a legit shop. You've got to literally walk through a shaping bay to go to the toilet. So I think that I had that feeling going for my first lash, going. How sick. We're walking through a shaping bay to go to the dunny. Like, this is good. This is a good place to be on a Friday AVO, mate. Thanks to our sponsors, Cheeky Monkey and Forrester, for chucking down a whole bunch of goodies sharkeye's weddies. Over there behind Kimbo. He's just rubbing one up. How smooth is that? On the elbow? On the groin pad right there. Kimbo sick, mate.
[00:03:21] Speaker D: Give him the round of applause, Happy.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah, bro.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: And we got athletic greens and stuff as well. And down south, Physio Trev's not here, but he's only across the corner, so shout out to those guys, but definitely shout out to Cheeky Monkey.
[00:03:33] Speaker D: And if you look in your hand, you probably got a Cheeky Monkey or a Froster there, so thanks, guys.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Thank you, Cheeky.
[00:03:38] Speaker E: And you probably had a little bit of sorry, too.
[00:03:43] Speaker D: Peace beach. Sorry out, mate.
Yeah. Pizza's by the Legends. That obviously peace pizza. Thank you for that.
[00:03:52] Speaker A: Well, let's bring them on up.
Look at us. For sure.
[00:03:56] Speaker D: But I'm going to do a thing for them, so do something. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's a Fresh Prince.
The lady in waiting, if you will. Third place in the recent single Fin competition absolutely shredded it against two of the best in the business, jay Davies and of course, Brad Gurley.
[00:04:21] Speaker A: Gurley Gurleck Girly He's called Brad gurleck girly. It's controversial.
[00:04:25] Speaker D: Maybe that's why he wasn't talking to.
[00:04:26] Speaker A: Me, because multiple Opens champion of the yelling up board riders. Multiple how many are we talking? Five? Four, five? Just a fistful, if you don't mind.
[00:04:38] Speaker D: Bring him up here. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr Zach Oguram.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Zach walks by you wish you could sex up on standing on the wall like he was poindexa next day's function, high class munching food is served in your stone cold munching music comes, more people start to dance.
[00:04:57] Speaker D: Welcome, mate. Hello. Here we are.
[00:05:00] Speaker A: A girl starts walking.
[00:05:01] Speaker D: We talked about this a little while back and here we are. We're doing it.
[00:05:04] Speaker E: Yeah, we're doing it.
Over the last few weeks, I was wondering whether we should or shouldn't have done this, but seeing everyone here tonight, I'm just stoked to look around all the faces. It's a good crew, too, so I think it was a good call. Thanks, everyone.
[00:05:20] Speaker D: Yeah. It looks like you're already picturing everyone in the audience naked, mate, so well done. That's a good start.
I did say you're a beautiful looking crowd. All right, the man who does the best introductions on the podcast, I'm going to hand it over to you, Mr Kennedy.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: All right, well, I can't even see him at the moment. It's a good chance he's actually just run for the know. I thought maybe Zacho might talk. He's pretty quiet, but there's a chance. But old man Augie, I was like, Nah, he's not talking at all. There's no chance. He's just a guru, man. He's a pirate of the highest order, sailing the high seas, literally sailing around the Bahamas and whatnot.
He hates shoes, man.
He shapes the sickest mouths and fun boards. He's a guru. He's an institution of dunsborough surf culture, southwest surf culture, mate. He has created an absolute institution in the building that we're standing in today. He's an absolute bloody legend. All time cruiser. And I'll be stoked if we get a few words out of him, like maybe two. Mate. Mark oggy. Olgram. Come up here, brother.
Just for the record, those that don't know, he's this is the most formal I've ever seen him dressed. He's got a new shirt on. I can see the crease lines. He's actually got thongs on. Normally, I don't know if you guys know, but he's actually got a tattoo of thong lines on the top of his feet so it looks like he's wearing thongs when he's barefoot. So that's how, like, he's really dressed up. He's put real thongs over the top of his tattoo thongs today. So thanks for showing up, mate.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: I've done my best.
[00:07:15] Speaker A: Thanks for coming, mate.
[00:07:18] Speaker D: Ladies and gentlemen, that's Augie.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: And shout out to the other son, Jetto, who I seen in the crowd there. Tattoo artists of the highest order. Who. There he is. It's front and center. Who did those thong feet? So well played.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: 50Th birthday present from J. O, was it?
[00:07:37] Speaker A: 50Th birthday present.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: A lifetime guarantee with them.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Never wear out, mate. That's classic.
All right, well, here we all are. Thanks for coming down, mate. Let's just start ripping in the chitchat, shall we? We'll start where we always start. T Bone, what do you reckon? Right at the start?
[00:07:57] Speaker B: We do like to wind it back.
[00:07:59] Speaker D: We'll start with the senior Augram. So, Oggy, so where did life start for you and where did surfing start for you?
[00:08:07] Speaker B: Well, life started a bit before surfing for me. Unfortunately, I was a bit of a late starter, but it was a small country town in New Zealand about an hour from the coast, so I was disadvantaged there. But, yeah, grew up where you're a weirdo if you didn't play rugby, so that was the start of my life, playing rugby, until I was about you.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Don'T have the build for it, really. Zacho, maybe. I don't know what happened. What did you feed that kid? He's pretty buff. But you not so much.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: No, that's what happened. By the time I was about 13, I figured I wasn't cut out for it. Banging into big Maori blokes.
[00:08:42] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:08:44] Speaker D: Just on Maori blokes. Sorry about the World Cup there.
[00:08:50] Speaker E: Any sport at all?
[00:08:54] Speaker A: Any all black supporters in the crowd?
[00:08:56] Speaker D: It's not a roast there, boys, just in case you're wondering.
[00:09:01] Speaker A: All right. So, mate, country town an hour away from the coast. I mean, things were different 150 years ago when you started.
Sorry it wasn't a roast. Yeah, it is a roast, obviously. Sorry where that came from. But, mate, in all seriousness, things were different then. Now you look at it now you only got to look over the left and see all the softboards over there and the soft fins, and we're taking our kids down the beach and getting into it earlier. But, mate, I'm assuming in your day there was obviously no softboards no soft fins.
It was pretty difficult, especially in New Zealand, probably. No, Weddies. Like, how the hell did you end up surfing?
Did your dad surf or whatever?
[00:09:43] Speaker B: No, dad didn't surf, but he was an ocean person. He built boats. We were always at the beach on weekends and holidays.
[00:09:51] Speaker A: But fiberglass boats.
[00:09:52] Speaker B: No, wooden boats.
[00:09:53] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, that was before fiberglass.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: Yeah, right. It does paint a picture early already, though, doesn't it?
Everything's falling in place very early in this podcast. Sorry, mate. Go on.
[00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah, but, yeah, as you say, it was like, early 70s. So surfers were Darrows and rejects, and you weren't encouraged to become a surfer back then, so you pushed into the rugby field. But that wasn't me. Figured that out pretty quick. And then someone gave me a surfboard, and I was about 15, and that was it.
[00:10:25] Speaker A: Who gave you a surfboard?
[00:10:26] Speaker B: Can't remember who. Someone gave me an old surfboard cut down.
[00:10:29] Speaker A: And what was your dad doing? Building boats an hour away from the coast?
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah, going to the coast on the weekend.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: Did he only work on the weekend? What was going on there? I don't know.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: He's gone now. But that's a question I'd love to ask. Why he settled an hour from the coast? Yeah, an ocean person. But yeah. Anyway, classic.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: So were you on boats pretty early then? Yeah.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: Great boats.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: That explains the pirate element to you. There's a lot all just coming together right there that I didn't know. And I've known you a while. Yeah. That's awesome.
So some rando just gave you a board?
[00:11:01] Speaker B: Gave you a board. What was it, like proper foaming or something like that, that someone had cut the nose off it?
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Auggie's just pointing to a nine foot mal that's glassed in big shark fin, triple stringer, like big tanker. Right.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: Someone had chopped the nose off it, made it a bit pointed, so it looked a bit modern and gave it away. Anyway, that was it. Went to the beach and yeah, I remember the first wave we ever caught.
[00:11:30] Speaker A: Tell us about it, please.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: Well, I can't remember the details. I just remember, like, a thunderbolt moment, you know, life changing thing where caught a wave and just suddenly went far out. This is me. This is know, this is who I am.
[00:11:44] Speaker D: Clean face, Augie. Clean face, which is a bit of whitewater.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: No, I just remember the first clean face wave I caught was just life changing.
[00:11:52] Speaker D: Yeah, nice one.
[00:11:54] Speaker B: So that was it.
[00:11:56] Speaker D: So, Auggie, when did you sort of start to take an interest in surfboards and shaping? How did that all evolve?
[00:12:02] Speaker B: Pretty quick after that, really, within a couple of years. I remember that board, even though it was my first one, looking at it going, oh, this is pretty crude. I reckon I could have made it look nicer than that. And straight away, thinking about the design and how it looked, within a couple of years, I just wanted to make some boards.
[00:12:22] Speaker D: So what year did you start shaping like your first board?
[00:12:26] Speaker B: 70, 819. 78, mate. And that's it there, up in the roof.
[00:12:30] Speaker D: No way.
[00:12:31] Speaker A: And is that number one?
[00:12:32] Speaker B: That's number one.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: How good is that? Number one right there, ladies and gentlemen. How the hell did you keep that, man?
[00:12:38] Speaker B: I didn't keep it.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: How did you what?
[00:12:40] Speaker B: I didn't keep it.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: You didn't keep it?
[00:12:42] Speaker B: Funny thing, I didn't keep tell us a story. Have a look at it. It's horrible.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: I got rid of it. It's got a hell of a stringer.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that was from the board that someone gave me that had already been cut down. I stripped it down, got the bit of foam out of the middle, grabbed dad, had a belt sander on the.
[00:12:58] Speaker E: End of a drill, so it's a.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Wobbly thing like this. Shaped it down in his garage and made that out of it. And raided Mum's kitchen drawers and got one of his kitchen spatulas and pulled the rubbery end off that, used that for a squeegee to glass it and made a hell of a mess in their garage. And that was that one. Number one, but classic. It came back to me, but, yeah, I didn't keep it. I didn't keep it. Someone it came back to me 40 years later. No way.
[00:13:29] Speaker D: Wow.
[00:13:30] Speaker B: A guy had a shop in New Zealand, someone bought that in to sell and he phoned me up and said, hey, I think this is rightfully yours. It's got number one written on.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: No way did you write on it.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: So I must have had a bit of a vision that I wanted to do more because I wrote number one on, so it came back to me.
[00:13:50] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:13:50] Speaker A: Crazy.
[00:13:51] Speaker D: So with your shaping, Augie, did you have any mentors or anyone sort of.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: Well, not helping you at the time? No, at that stage it was outside. Had a crack at it doing that one and then still survived. Yeah. Probably because it didn't go very well.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: Under a garage for 40 years.
[00:14:07] Speaker D: While we are talking about those boards that are up there, cast your eyes, ladies and gentlemen, to the one to the right. Now, am I correct, Zach? That's the one you rode in, the single fin?
[00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:17] Speaker E: So the second one up here, that's the one I begged dad to be able to ride.
And yeah, that's one I took down to the single fin.
[00:14:27] Speaker D: Yeah. So obviously a bit nicer shape than number one. What number is that one?
[00:14:31] Speaker B: That's number eleven.
[00:14:32] Speaker D: Number eleven. Well, you knew it pretty quickly.
My goodness. The reason I did what? Well, Zach can describe it in a second. The reason I did want to bring it back to Zach as well, is I did forget to mention one of the reasons that we're down here as well is because Zach is joining the business in an official capacity. He's buying in as one of the owners shortly.
Zacky and Auggie wanted to Zackie, you're not five anymore, are you?
Zacky and Auggie.
Zach and Augie wanted to sort of commemorate the occasion with this podcast. So did come from Zach and Auggie as their idea and carry on with the stories you tell them.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Both operation Zacho's officially buying.
[00:15:27] Speaker D: Tell us about that board, mate.
[00:15:29] Speaker E: Oh, just gonna before that, yeah, it's me and Ellie coming on and just a bit.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: Ellie'S his misses, by the way.
[00:15:41] Speaker E: Oh, yeah, that's my wife. So they're buying in, but, yeah, just a bit more on us coming in. I guess from the outside, it looks like it's always been the path sort of thing. But there's been a bit in that as far as, like, looking up to dad, his shaping and everything, and then going through parts of me going through different avenues of shaping and almost wondering if I can ever live up to what he's done throughout here. It's like huge shoes to fill. And then now being a bit older and stuff and coming through with my own career, and now I'm like, yeah, I would love to come into this, to take it on to the next generation so dad can slowly just wind down and just keep shaping all the way until he croaks it.
[00:16:35] Speaker A: You've totally been on your own path. I mean, obviously it started with your dad. We'll go into that. But just as a quick keeping up to date like you did, the hard yards, went over east, you shaped under big shapers. Everyone knows that Zacho absolutely rips the bag out of waves. He's a performance surfer, and you've taken on that whole performance shaping role here, whereas Auggie shapes are like, fat, average, talented dudes like me. And I'm like, that's why I always ride Augie's boards, because he seems to just make it work for me. But the young crew, they want Z shapes, mate. Like, I'm sorry, Zacho, I haven't ridden one of your boards, but we just don't connect like that.
But, mate, just as a background, like, yeah, so it's a perfect combination. Augie does the sickest mouths, as you can see behind you, just these glossed up, sprayed up, nose riding victory boards. And then Zach's got the full board quiver performance all day long. So it's an awesome combination. And, yeah, the whole night tonight started from Zach wanting to just make it official that he's now officially buying in. And it's caused for celebration, really, because it means that this joint here hopefully just lives on for another 30 years, and hopefully we're all here to just keep ripping in and find weddies and buying boards. And mate, how often is it that you can go down and look at, order a board and then watch the guys shape it out the back. And mate, the guys at work here, Mouse and Brad and Wado, mate, they're all just core surfers, mate.
There's no way you'd walk in here and just go, mate, it's a bit soft. That shop like these guys. Everyone knows everyone who comes in here. It's an awesome shop. So well done, Zach. Round of applause. Long live the.
[00:18:33] Speaker D: Reverse roast. Now, testimonials, testimonials, you know, so a question for you, Zach, mate. What's the old man what's one bit of advice that the old man's passed over to you from shaping boards?
[00:18:50] Speaker E: I feel like he told me when I first started shaping, and it was a thing that didn't really click. And then from shaping for a while and talking to other shapers and then almost hearing and seeing it from them and then with a bit more experience hearing it from dad again, then it started clicking in more. It was that, like, it's not so much about the technically measured, perfect, symmetrical everything. It sort of takes on its art, its own form of art, like anything else, like cooking or dancing, wherever, where it's like you got to go with the flow a bit more. And it's like if it's a nice curve on that side and it's a nice curve on that side, if they're a little bit different, that's okay.
[00:19:42] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:19:45] Speaker E: Everyone says natural or regular. Anyway, you look at the front and the back of your foot, they're completely different. It doesn't matter if that side is a bit different to that side, but it's more like yeah, getting like if you've got one side perfect and you're fighting yourself, trying to get this perfect symmetry, but it's just not quite working. Whereas you'll see and working with a few other shapers, too, the ones that just let it flow, let it hang out. It's like boards are curved, the ocean's curved. Everything sort of needs a bit of room to breathe.
[00:20:21] Speaker D: Sounds pretty organic there.
[00:20:22] Speaker E: Yeah. And even different people find the different inspiration with that curves. I know Weber's into his like, he would show me pictures of, like, a tuna's fin and be like, look how fucking beautiful that curve is on that. And then I'd talk to dad and he's like, oh, everyone's putting their quads, like, here.
But when I'm sailing, I find the head sail and the main sail, if they're a bit closer together, the wind's hitting the front one, then hitting the back of the next one and kind of more projecting off that. So his quads, the Kelvin and stuff, the fins are, like, quite close together. And he's just like that's from sailing, that sort of rolling, going with the flow of the wind. So it's more that. Yeah, I'd say biggest thing I've learned is steering away from that technical measured. This has to be that millimeters perfect. Exactly. It's like any other art, just let it flow.
[00:21:22] Speaker D: Probably leads me on to the next question these days, the machine shapes versus the hand shapes, what's your sort of opinion on that? What do you prefer or any yeah.
[00:21:37] Speaker E: They both totally have their place and I'll have a different perspective from dad. I'm keen to hear his perspective too, because I started shaping probably my 1st 50 boards or so were handshaped before the machine came into town. Whereas dad did what, 30 years or so?
[00:21:57] Speaker D: 30 years handshaped, yes.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: And a lot of chiropractor bills.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: Yeah, 30 years of hand jobs.
[00:22:08] Speaker E: My opinion on this, the handshapes are good for if you've got a kind of raw idea that you want to get out, you're looking at it in the bay. You can kind of get it as you go and go by the feel and everything. The machine shapes with the files now. It's great to be able to work with people that are coming back for more and more boards. They're like, I just want a little more here, a little less there. And making those subtle adjustments because you're already working off the machine will give you back a board that's sort of 85% done and you can tune it in from there. Whereas hand shaping, you're obviously starting from scratch every time. So there's just so much more labor and room for, I guess, variables of getting that repeat sort of thing for people. So handshapes, when I think over the last ten years, a couple of my favorite boards are still handshapes, but definitely the machine for sort of that higher end performance. And some of the junior surfers I've got through that are competing and stuff. It's good to just have that being able to replicate. But you might have a different opinion.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: Have you guys ever done a handshape that just came out so perfect? You're talking about it not being asymmetrical. Did you ever have one that just came out like so ridiculously perfect you just like rubbed your sack straight across the deck?
Did that ever happen?
[00:23:38] Speaker E: Me and you might have a different relationship to serpent.
[00:23:42] Speaker D: How do you think they get the polish on the boards?
[00:23:44] Speaker A: Matt?
[00:23:57] Speaker B: There's a magic to hand shaping. There's something and as Zach said, it's sort of what I learned with the worked of a lot of good shapers through my career. And there were a lot of guys that were meticulous joining the dots and it was a very accurate, precise thing. And they're great shapers, nothing against that. But the guys that I thought were most influential, that I loved watching the most were the guys that just had this magic working. When I first came over to perth here and I was working with rusty shaping. Rusty's greg lorenzo and mick button. Both meticulous shapers. Greg particularly was just an absolute legend. But John Carper came over from California. He was shaping Rusty's in California and I jumped in the bay and watched him and it was totally different from any other shaper I'd ever seen. This guy was like he was dancing around the know and at the end of it, this thing just came out that wasn't exactly accurate. You could measure it and it was a bit out here and there, but it just had a magic flow to it. There was some indifferent, but Cole Adams was the same work with Cole. And when I was glassing his boards, he had a round logo, shaping logo that went up in the nose and he always say to me, I'll just bring it back down from the nose a little bit so they don't see how different the outlines are on each side. But same again. His boards just had a magic flow to yeah, I think there's something about that. But I'd like to sort of bust a few myths about hand shaping versus machine shaping.
Like Zach said, you're starting with a raw blank that's generally a bit inaccurate and there's a lot of stuff to do to that before you get to the part where you're actually getting what you want out of it. And as you said, Edgy, sometimes some of them come out and it's just like, Fuck, that just went so it just came out perfect. Otherwise you're kind of battling against them a bit. But, yeah, you can shape pretty bad boards. Hand shaping, you can shape magic boards with Handshaping. And the same thing with the machine. The thing that I reckon about the machine, yes, I spent 30 years hand shaping and then the last 15 or so I've been working with the machine, and not many handshapes, but the machine just gives you the ability to keep refining what you've worked on. So you might handshape a magic board. If you've got that in the machine, you can go back to it next time you shape one and you can tweak a couple of mills here and there and just continually keep refining. I think that's what we're doing with a lot of models. Every time I shape one, I might just go back to the program and just tweak a couple of mills here. So they're continually getting better. And the next one you get off the machine, it's already at that point where you left off last time. You're not picking up a raw blank and getting it accurate.
It's like, find a builder that's going to build you a house with a handsaw and a hammer.
Technology changes, and that was a progression, too, with Handshaping.
Where do you stop with technology? So when I started Handshaping, we had two blanks, we had a six, six and a seven footer. They were like that. They were square rails, they were inaccurate. There was shitloads of work to do on them. And then we made a new mold for a bit more refined blank that had the rocker a bit closer to what we wanted and they were a bit thinner and the decks rolled off a bit. So that was like an advance in technology, getting a more refined blank. Now there's hundreds of blanks available from the blank manufacturers that are really close to what you want to do if you're hand shaping. So it's been a continual progression from the axe, I guess, through to the machine now.
[00:27:32] Speaker D: It sure has. Zach, I want to ask you, obviously you learn a lot from your old man. You mentioned Weber before. Do you spend a bit of time over east working with other shapers and learning over there?
[00:27:43] Speaker E: Yeah. So from first learning here with dad and I will get back to that later, but yeah, after I don't know how long I've been shaping here, but we moved over to the Gold Coast for a year.
Got a job just with Darren hanley Glassing. And, yeah, that was pretty great, going from work to normal week here. Me and Ellie moved over on the weekend, started work on Tuesday. It was a couple of weeks before the CT. 90% of the guys on tour were coming through the factory getting boards from a kid from Dunsborough. I was like, what just happened in five days?
So learned a lot in that factory. I didn't do any shaping there, but just being in that environment was pretty crazy. And then I was actually there when they shut down and Louis Thomas that used to live here, he was down working with Channel Islands in Sydney and then he scored me a job down there. So from there we've been back and forth a bit, but the last time we're there in Sydney and was doing shaping the Simon Ansons and Greg Webbers and a few Channel Islands as well. So between those few, some pretty big names there, mate.
[00:29:06] Speaker A: It's not like you started out with your dad in small town in Dunsborough and then all of a sudden you're shaping under those huge international names. Pretty.
[00:29:20] Speaker E: Felt because you're just in the same shaping bay. It's not like not Hollywood, you still feel like you're in the same environment, but it went from being here, not.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: Like yesterday when you failed to show up for the test run here because you were actually in a Hollywood movie on the beach down in yelling up, what were you doing, Zach? What were you doing?
He may or may not have been carrying Nick Cage down the beach and we're ringing him going, Mate, where are you? But luckily, Mouse and Wade over here and we went through it with them. But sorry, mate, there's always branches to every story. Carry on. Hollywood. Zach hollywood. Aubrey but, yeah, that.
[00:30:02] Speaker E: Was good working for all them, but know a lot of people. Oh, it must be great to learn from those guys. But the thing I found out very quickly is they're not that keen to.
[00:30:12] Speaker A: Teach you a whole lot.
Where's me coffee? Buddy.
[00:30:16] Speaker E: Well, the one thing Simon taught me the dream life, because I was shaving for him. And he would surf narrowen all day and then sit in his little spot taking photos of all his team riders in the afternoon. And then he'd swan into work about 430, really shape two boards for himself. And then on the way out be like, I'm going on holiday next week.
[00:30:39] Speaker A: Can you guys glass these up.
[00:30:42] Speaker E: For that? I was like, he's doing what I want to do.
[00:30:46] Speaker A: That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
[00:30:48] Speaker E: But yeah. Weber was one I really enjoyed working with for.
He just seemed so laser focused on the boards and the beauty of the curves and everything. And he didn't care about anything. He was like glass with no logos, whatever. Don't pay. Just he's got his little notebook where he's sketching out random new fins. And he was the one in the bay that probably spent more time with me than anyone else.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Is he sort of a bit of an eccentric genius guru type dude? Is that right? I don't know.
[00:31:22] Speaker E: Totally normal.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Same as every other shaper.
[00:31:27] Speaker E: I'm sure everyone's heard the stories. But yeah, for me, I've saw through all that. I was like, I don't think he's weird. I think he's got a mind that's just latched on to that sort of symbiosis of the curves of shaping and nature and waves and everything.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: And George Greeno in it. Like, he was the eccentric dude. And he just absolutely propelled surfboard fins and whatnot into the like, when you're talking about the tuners. Before, his fins were all based on the tuners and that. So yeah, I guess it just takes those sort of people who are super zoomed in to create new stuff.
[00:32:05] Speaker E: And I kind of got a bit lucky with him too, because he was just coming back. They were going to get insight started again and he was coming back to start that up. So he got nine boards for me to go through with him and show me the details. And he just dropped off Shane Herring's banana board from the Coke classic and then left and was like, do the three like this.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: What?
[00:32:31] Speaker E: And so did those three. And he came back and was like, yeah, they look pretty. Like, actually, you've really nailed this rail like stoked. And then a week later he called me and was like, I've just got Kelly six boards cut for Fiji and I've fucked my back and you come.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: And I was just like, fuck.
[00:32:56] Speaker E: And so when he came in and just gave him the once over and we're like, yeah. And he was like, actually, you know what?
You can write your name on the stringer.
[00:33:06] Speaker D: Just do it small.
[00:33:07] Speaker A: Just write it on the stringer really small.
[00:33:10] Speaker E: And I was like, fuck, wrote it on the stringer boards. Got glass, saw them all. They were glass and they'd had a black line painted over the stringer to look like his epopsy carbon stringer was.
[00:33:23] Speaker A: I was like, thanks, Greg.
And how did Kelly go on him? Did he go right or did he have a shocker?
[00:33:30] Speaker D: Because he won, didn't he?
[00:33:32] Speaker E: Yeah, there was one day he was riding and the first day he looked really good and then he was catching and I saw an interview on one of the things and he was like, I'm just not feeling I'm going to change it out. And I was like, I had no idea if that was the ones I'd done or something else, but in my head I was just like.
[00:33:54] Speaker D: That'S great, that's epic. Now, in the modern shortboards, you're obviously focusing on that and the old man is doing his other pieces of work. Do you ride other shapers? How do you get your inspirations these days? Because shortboards just seem to keep evolving and changing. And do you keep up to date with other shapers or do you just do your own thing and work on what you've got?
[00:34:19] Speaker E: I'm not like against writing other shapers, but I barely get time to shave myself aboard later.
But no, I quite like now I'm at a stage where I'm liking the look of all these and I'm like riding a few dad. Dad's. I mean, a few magic single fins over the years.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: For the listeners out there, he's just pointing to the vast array of epic alternative boards hanging from the ceilings.
[00:34:45] Speaker D: Black single fin, the white fin looks seabone's.
[00:34:48] Speaker A: Got a real hard on for that black singley over there.
It looks like one of my shapes, soggy that looks like something you would have shaped me out of the multitude of singleies you've shaped me.
[00:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it's probably along the lines. I did that one for Zach years ago. But yeah, it's probably along the lines of your ones edge. We sort of got a pretty good single fin template nailed, haven't we? And keep doing it.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: I've absolutely ridden them to victory many times. I've probably had at least, I don't even know, ten or 15 custom auggie single fins. Fair few, but yeah, mate, they've been epic. You're a master craftsman, man, there's no doubt about it. Some of the singleies I've rolled in here, I remember there was one a few years back, it was like made out of all wood, triple stringer. I can't even remember it used to be hanging up around there and wooden fin, and it was on sale for like two and a half grand or something. And to the average punter, they couldn't understand where all that labor was. But to those that knew that was a special board, whatever happened, you know that one, don't you?
[00:35:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess someone picked it up and took it home and hopefully wrote it, not just put it on the wall.
[00:35:56] Speaker A: It was a wall hanger. That should be ridden, for sure.
[00:35:58] Speaker B: Should be ridden. They all should be ridden. They're surfboards, not wall hangings.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Yeah, man, you are a master craftsman.
You do all sorts of creations, and especially now in this day and age where so many people want to fun board and stuff as well.
Like 20 years ago, it was like a 30 year old dude wouldn't be surfing a mid length twinny or a mini male or something that is blatantly way more fun because there was a bit of a scene. But now, man, it's just like open slather. And you guys have got so many options in here, the Kelvinator being one of them, being probably your most famous product, really, outside of your epic mouths that you do. Tell us about the Kelvinator and that model and how that happened.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: It's a long story, the Kelvinator story.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: But you're not allowed to tell long stories here. Sorry, mate, short stories only long stories. That's my thing. All right?
[00:37:01] Speaker B: I mean, as you know, I've always been open to different ideas and different boards offbeat boards or whatever, but the Kelvinator wasn't a direction I was heading in, but good customer of ours that we've done a lot of boards for, mark Johnson came to me one day, done this research. He bought me pages and pages of magazine articles from California about the mini Simmons movement. Guys over there were relooking at what Bob Simmons was doing back in the know, wide tails and fins on two fins on them, which never happened. Then they were all single fins and just said, look, I want to try one of these. Do one for me. That's it up there. That's the first one we did for Mark there. So got that as close as I could to the research he'd done on it and we knew, geez, I don't know, Mark, it looks pretty weird. Looks like a fridge, know, hence the name, the Kelvinator. But he took it out for a surf, he came back and went, hey, you're going to go and have a ride on this? Take it for a surf, see what you yeah, okay, yeah, whatever. Took it out at Yale's one day and it was one of those bit south swell where the right handers were breaking pretty fast across the COVID Took off on that thing and it just went like a rocket ship, like old ball bearings. I just couldn't believe what we'd created, know, with that concave and the tail and the rolled bow and the nose. Again, it was, know, coming off the top, coming down, go, oh, here we go, this wide nose is going to catch and do that. It just did that and came around into the next turn. I came back to Mark and said, yeah, we've really got something going there. So then we refined it, we put quads on it, we tweaked it a bit here and there, and Kelvinator, you know, there it is. As you know.
[00:38:39] Speaker D: I'm actually curious if we could get a show of hands in the room who's actually ridden a Kelvinator?
Just about every single person here.
[00:38:49] Speaker A: He's actually ridden about 17 of he's.
[00:38:53] Speaker D: Ridden so many, they call him Kelvinator, Samsung, whatever.
[00:38:57] Speaker A: Barry the Kelvinator McKinnon, they call him mate, just for those listeners out there that don't know Augie or the Kelvinator, they're generally around five eight to like a six four Kelvinator is probably got the same foam as like a seven eight gun. And the tail is a straight square, it's not even rounded. It's about 300 mil wide, maybe 350. And mate, they literally are as flat as a fridge door. Mate, I was in Lennox Head a couple of years ago, took the Kelvie. I love the Kelvies, and I took it over there and we're staying in this little house and mate, Lennox Head was so sick for a Kelvina. The thing about the Kelvie, you can go like 30 meters out onto the wall and just cut all the way back. People are like, this guy's off the wave and he's in the Channel and all of a sudden I'm just planing back to the whitewater. It was so sick. And then the place I was staying at, Kelvinator Fridge, I was just like, yes. Because I didn't have a Kelvinator fridge at home. And I remember I was telling Katia, I was like, check it out. It's the Kelvinator. I got the fridge. It was killer. So I made their sick boards and I've actually ridden them in some pretty serious waves that I literally probably shouldn't have been riding them in. Like, it's just me needing more foam due to being fat and shit, but probably should have been riding a Z shape, in all honesty. But I'm out there like eight foot nalu sitting down the shoulder, obviously, but on a Kelvie.
Well, I did. I went the impersonator. I ended up stepping it up. What's the impersonator?
[00:40:34] Speaker B: The impersonator is just for those that can't get their head around the width and that of the Kelvina. So it's just trimmed in a little bit, got a bit of a pointy nose and a bit more pulled in the tail. But that's why it's an impersonator. It's trying to be a Kelvinator, but.
[00:40:47] Speaker D: It'S in disguise now. Augie just on models. What's the moana? Because I sort of look at Azi as a moana surfer.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he's pretty much a moana surfer. Moana is probably a modern version of.
[00:41:02] Speaker A: Is that a moana, though?
[00:41:03] Speaker B: No, it's not. But that's the classic single fin. Moana is a bit more of a Tweaked version of Know, and it's kind of the modern day answer to the old style single A, just called a moana because it's the essence of the ocean. It's just like Zach was saying about curves. To me, the curves just are natural curves. It's just a beautiful natural board and it just seems to be doing that. It just seems to be doing everything for everyone.
[00:41:30] Speaker D: Doing a moana movie shortly, if not already.
What do you expect?
No, an actual live action with actors, not voiceovers.
[00:41:42] Speaker E: They got any extras roles going?
[00:41:45] Speaker D: I was going to say don't try to get a hold of Zach because he'll be carrying Jason momoa over his shoulder or something. Classic. Now, just taking things back a little bit, winding it back a little bit as we do, we go on a little bit of tangents on Barrister podcast.
I was talking to Shell before Augie and said you'd been in Dunsborough since about 88 or something. How'd you make your way over from in Zid?
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Well, we just got sick of long cold winters, so it was time to bail out. I'd done my time there and yeah, it was just time to get away from the long, cold winters and flat spells were on the east coast, North Island, so you could go a couple of months without swell there. And we'd started windsurfing to keep us in the water and, yeah, my brother was living in Frio and windsurfing and just always ringing me, going, man, the sun's shining. It's been shining for three months. It hasn't rained and it's winter and yeah, it's winter and the breeze comes in every so we just moved over here, we just went, Right, that's it, we packed up the van. We had Jed at that stage, zach wasn't on the scene and yeah, we just moved over here and lobbed into Perth and Rusty were moving up there at the time, setting up a new factory, got in with those guys and did some work up there. We thought we'd live in a city for a while, but that was no, it doesn't work. No, it didn't work for me.
[00:43:08] Speaker A: How long did it take you to work out that Perth is not where it's at?
[00:43:12] Speaker B: And you came down here about 18 months. I persevered 18 months, two weeks. The shaping, the rusties up there was a good experience on production, refining the skills and that, but yeah, I just woke up one day and I go, here I am, I'm working in an industrial area in a city that really doesn't whereabouts what's, other than shaping the same board every know and just went nut. This is not yeah, Zach was on the scene by then, so we just packed up the old Holden station wagon and moved down south and set up.
[00:43:45] Speaker E: I was about to turn one, I was like, Get me out of here.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: Yeah, his first words were the to. I usually would have sworn then, but there's kids in the front row, mate. Who took you for your first run down south? Auggie, who opened you up to that one? Was it Billy Gibson?
[00:44:02] Speaker B: Because he did most people no, we just heard know. So my brother talked about the windsurfing up in Perth, but I'd had mates that had been down south and up north and sounded like WA was kind of beautiful raw, unspoiled place. So, yeah, we just bolted down here and went down to Maggie's and went into yells and yells just kind of hit the spot for me. There's just something magic there for me. And still we've got a couple of foreigners in the crowd, but you guys.
[00:44:34] Speaker D: Get your visas on the way up.
And so you moved down to Dunsborough, was it? Straight to dunsborough.
[00:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah, straight to Dunsborough. So I just moved down, jumped in the H 20 factory, and rented a shaping bay off Ronnie in there, did a few boards for them, but started setting up the Yahoo label.
And then it was probably four years later, 94, I think H 20 was closing down, and so it was time to bite the bullet and moved into Clark Street and set up camp there.
[00:45:09] Speaker D: Yes, well, that's a very good very good question there, ADSI.
I stole Adi's microphone, so he's asking questions through me like I'm a medium. Auggie, yahoo. Tell us about the name.
[00:45:25] Speaker A: Well, it's the drop. Yahoo.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: Well, it was about putting the fun back into it. So this was 1990, and as I say, I was shaping the rusties. It was all pretty serious. It was all pretty high performance. Slater was in his heyday, and everyone was going narrow and rocket, and everyone thought if they didn't ride that they shouldn't be surfing or couldn't surf or whatever.
It wasn't me. It didn't work for me. As you see, my range of boards, I was on different stuff. I was always thinking different stuff. So it's just like, there's got to be some fun, go back into it. And Yahoo just came out of the air to me one day. We're sitting looking at the beach gun. There's got to be more fun in it. Let's just move down, call it Yahoo Surfboards, and just do our own thing, go off on our own.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: Will.
[00:46:14] Speaker D: You would have loved those banana boards that Zach made for old KS at that point.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: A crazy rocker with yeah, well, that's what he into. But that didn't work for me, and that didn't work for a lot of people like.
[00:46:29] Speaker D: Auggie. You know, looking up in the rafters, you've got all these surfboards. For me, it looks like it tells the story of your life and your family.
If you could pick one board, one board only, what would you choose out of all these boards hanging up in.
[00:46:45] Speaker B: The rafters that sort of means the.
[00:46:46] Speaker D: Most to you over the years?
[00:46:47] Speaker B: What means the most to me?
That's a tricky one, though. You've got number one up there, but they've all got this story.
[00:46:54] Speaker D: What about when you first started Yahoo? Did you keep the first board that you bumped out of that?
[00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I think probably that long board. That was probably the first Yahoo board. I kept. The next one along was the first one we made when we set up our factory. But it was probably the next one along was a single fin that Nico borrowed for a single fin comp and ran into someone and put a ding in the bottom of that.
But the next one along probably is the one I think where things started to change.
[00:47:22] Speaker D: Which one is that one?
[00:47:23] Speaker B: So with the floral logo.
[00:47:25] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:47:26] Speaker A: Probably the classic what do they call it? A layer with the light blue bottom spray when you go to like, the islands and they give you the necklace.
[00:47:38] Speaker D: Of.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I got laid in Hawaii.
[00:47:43] Speaker D: You got laid in Hawaii?
[00:47:45] Speaker A: Yeah. At the airplane or laid straight up? Straight in.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: So that's probably the one, I guess where I started thinking, shit, we need a bit more width in the boards, we need a bit more nose area for guys like know. So that's, I guess, when we started doing that and that became the hybrid, was the first board that was in between a shortboard and a mini mail, really, because there was this whole gaping void there. Everyone was either riding shortboards, high performance shortboards or laurel on mini maels and mouse. So there was this whole gap in the middle where that's where we started work.
[00:48:18] Speaker D: It's like you were ahead of the game because all these fun, short, different style boards have now become so popular.
[00:48:27] Speaker B: That's right, everyone's on board with it now and that's great to see. Everyone's got a bit more of an open mind and prepared to try stuff like that. But it's taken a long time and over the last few years you've seen a trend of mid length.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:48:39] Speaker B: We've been doing them for 40 years.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: The lineup may have been better without all those alternative, in all honesty.
[00:48:48] Speaker D: Well, you would have got less waves.
[00:48:50] Speaker A: I would have got so many less waves. Yeah. I'm a menace. I'm an absolute menace out there. Courtesy of extra foam. So nice work.
[00:48:57] Speaker E: What do you got?
[00:48:59] Speaker A: Okay, you guys good? You're good? We're only fresh. We're fresh in all the break. Well, Namu's had three already, but we're only one now, mate.
Right, let's dial it back a little bit. We're sort of going all over the place because in all honesty we could go for 6 hours here tonight, no doubt. But we're going to try our best to do too, mate. What about the first tube ever? Any surfer? We're all core surfers in the crowd here. Can you remember your first tube that you either came out of or didn't come out of? It one that just really sticks in your memory banks. Early days. Zach was probably three, Auggie was maybe 19. Like different. You owe that to your dad, by the way.
First tube, Auggie, what do you got?
[00:49:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Burly heads, I reckon.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: What? There's not no tubes in New Zealand.
[00:49:49] Speaker B: Or what's going on, but mostly on my backhand and I wasn't getting barreled there.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: I feel that.
[00:49:56] Speaker B: No, it was burly heads, I reckon probably 19 80, 81.
Everyone said, oh, if you don't get tubed at Burly, you're doing nothing wrong and shit. All of a sudden, there I am in the tube. And I went, really? Hey, they're right.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: On a single barrel. Yeah.
On a self shaped singly. Yeah. Sick. And you came out?
[00:50:16] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:50:16] Speaker D: Did you?
[00:50:17] Speaker A: That's epic.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: No, I do remember it.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: It was a corker with Cheryl on.
[00:50:21] Speaker B: The beach with her. Wasn't quite on scene.
[00:50:25] Speaker A: Oh, she wasn't on scene then.
[00:50:26] Speaker E: That's what got her over that line.
[00:50:28] Speaker A: She was on the beach, she was in the crowd and thought, who was that guy just getting tubed? I'll have a piece of sick. Oh, that's pretty cool. And what was that? Just like a quick holiday run or something to check out?
[00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it came over to sort of learn a bit more too. Like, Bob Davey was the guy that taught me to shape, and under his wing came Al Byrne, Rod Delbern oh, really? Bret Monroe and then myself, and big.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: Names there, because I haven't heard of Bob Davey, but the other names that came under him were huge names.
[00:51:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Bob's still to this day, I think one of the best shapers I've ever worked.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: He's still going.
[00:51:05] Speaker B: I know he's gone now, he's gone now, but yeah, I still think he was one of the best shapers.
[00:51:10] Speaker A: Did he teach albeen about channels, you reckon? Not Albin. Alan Byrne.
[00:51:16] Speaker B: Sorry, no. I don't know whether he taught him about channels, but yeah, gave him the skills to implement it, maybe.
I think Bob and I were doing al's models in New Zealand, so I came over to the East Coast.
[00:51:31] Speaker A: Al Byrne was Kiwi originally, too, wasn't he?
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah, they were all from that. Rod Delberg was from the same area. Bloody Kiwis. Tough to keep.
[00:51:38] Speaker A: Doubt it's. Like rabbits.
[00:51:41] Speaker B: We haven't stopped.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: And what about your first tube, Zacho? It was probably like four years old at rabbits or something, I guess.
[00:51:51] Speaker E: I do remember that for me, a bit different story to dad of learning surf. I literally can't remember not surfing. I think at three and a half or four when I started surfing.
But first tube I clearly remember it was when we were sort of had I don't know how long we'd been on fiberglass boards when you guys used to take us up to bears all the time, when it was just only ever under one and a half meters and we'd just surf little babies.
And there's one day me and Jed would just sit in there in the little corner, and then as soon as the set come, we're just like over to the channel, let all the sets go through, like, dart back in, wait for these little ones, and just got this little left.
Wasn't even trying to get bow, really. Just wiggling along and then I wasn't even looking out, I was just looking down and seeing the wave hitting in front of me.
[00:52:45] Speaker A: And I was like I'll get chewed.
[00:52:50] Speaker E: And just sort of squeaked out. And I remember just going straight in, running up the beach to Mum was on the beach and I was like.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: Did you see it? Did you see it?
[00:52:59] Speaker E: I got my first just ended the surf.
[00:53:01] Speaker A: I was like, yeah.
[00:53:04] Speaker E: And then she said she didn't see it, so I was like, I just headed back out. And I was like, all right.
[00:53:11] Speaker B: She was probably filming on the beach, but Mum's filming was to press record when the thing at camera was down here and then stop once.
[00:53:33] Speaker D: Were they sort of both ripping early on augie boys. Were the boys just ripping straight up?
[00:53:38] Speaker B: Yeah, they were pretty natural straight. Know, I got a photo out there of the boys when I think you were what, three and four? Pretty young, and they both had style. I remember showing Cole Adams a photo of Zach and Jed when they both just first standing up and he's like, oh, shit, you got a couple of good ones there. Just had that natural style from the start. Like Zach says, they just grew up. I wish I'd grown up never remembering a day when I wasn't, but so these guys just grew up in the ocean and they're pretty on it from the start.
[00:54:09] Speaker E: Yeah, even from those early days later on to our early teens, just when dad would tell the stories about being stuck an hour away from the coast and having a hitchhike out.
And I was like, me and Je just used to get dropped down to yells at like 730 in the morning with $5 lunch money.
Surf shallows, walk back up. That was when Jay and Wyatt had their old man had the gallery there. There was surfside and the kiosk. So we'd just chuck all our stuff in the garden at the gallery.
Surf shallows, come up, have a pie or whatever, hang in the tree, play. No, didn't have phones back then, so our game was throwing rocks at a Coke can sitting on a post, but then run back down for another surf body. Surf just lived at the beach. And then out of our $5, we'd save $0.20 for the phone box to call them to come pick us up. And sometimes it would go to the answering machine and we're like, we're just.
[00:55:11] Speaker D: Going to be stuck here.
[00:55:11] Speaker E: And then obviously they knew. They're like, they're just going to be yelling up. And we're just in our little board socks trying not to get got by mosquitoes. And they come, they're like, what, you spent your last $0.20 again, you can't.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: Save it to call us? And we're like, we'll try to call you.
[00:55:27] Speaker E: But that was every weekend, every school holidays from like twelve years old. And so now going when I go surf yelling up now I just have such a deep appreciation for the whole place. Yelling up the lagoon, rabbits everything. I've just like, thought it was good then, but you just think that's because where you grew up. But then after traveling abroad and everything coming back, I'm like, it truly is one of the most beautiful places in the world.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: So thanks for bringing us down here.
$0.20 was a lot.
[00:56:03] Speaker E: I'll do a reverse charge call, I reckon.
[00:56:07] Speaker D: Now, Augie, you mentioned that both your boys had really good styles. Question for you, even Jed as well. What surfers influenced your style and surfing throughout years? Start with you, Zach.
Yeah, I don't know. TV, wouldn't it?
[00:56:27] Speaker E: Yeah, we always watch a lot of Taj, but I was like, taj is a little whippet, just throwing big. And I was like, that's not feel like those days would talk about hanging down at Yale's. It was always know I had a mate. Chatty Simpson. And then Dan Wadell, jay Davies. Wyatt Davies, the not twins. And Jay was the one of us. It was like, everyone knows how Jay's built. And he was the one that just from very early on just really made it. And his style of just like, heavy back foot, big airs, everything, I was just like, that. Is.
[00:57:10] Speaker D: Jay Dovey? Is he in the room? I don't.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: How are you, budy? I was about to say, I know Tony Saffer, who's a good friend of the podcast. He always reiterates to me how Jay Davies is his favorite surfer ever. So he's a lot of our favorite. I thought you were about to ask Augie a question just to really stir the pot. Then when you said that, I thought you were going to say, like, to old man Augie. I thought you were going to say, who do you like watching more, Zach or Jed? But then you change and I'm like watching Jed surf better than me.
[00:57:49] Speaker D: Clearly Jed, because he's a goofy foot.
All right, Auggie, what about you? Who's influenced your surfing over the years?
[00:58:00] Speaker B: Who influenced mine? Well, when I was growing up surfing, it was Lopez full stop, Lopez style master. No one did it better.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: Why that single fin looks like that? That's a Lopez looking.
[00:58:13] Speaker B: This single fin here I made a couple of years ago. That's a replica of my first ever custom board that I got, which was a lightning bolt stinger.
[00:58:21] Speaker A: Really?
[00:58:22] Speaker E: Yeah.
[00:58:22] Speaker B: So that's a replica because it's got.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: The red for those that can't see. It's got the Hawaiian palm trees and flowers spray job on it. T Bone is like the full Z shape guy. He will not ride anything bigger than a six two thruster, that's ultra performance, whereas I'm the opposite. But then T Bone came in here yesterday when we're setting up and sizing it up and mate, I'm sorry to say, Zacho, he walked straight past your boards and the sack came out and he rubbed it down the rail and he was like, how the hell is this thing? And it's not just. The board. It's the stand. It's on. It's like Jarrah Wood stand with Holden Engine 308 chrome rocket covers stuck to the side, and the old bogan in T bone from Rocking Anders came out and it was harder than I've seen him in years.
[00:59:16] Speaker D: Drive a sandman, mate. All right, we are going to take a little quick intermission. We've got a bit more to get through, so grab yourself a drink, grab yourself a toilet break, and we'll be back in five to seven minutes.
[00:59:32] Speaker A: For.
[00:59:33] Speaker D: Your working adventures with act. And I know it led you to Japan. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
[00:59:38] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that was early ninety s, I guess, when I just first moved down here and I was in H 20 and I was doing a few shapes in there and glassing some of Cole's boards. Cole Adams. Act was a small Japanese label happening up in Nagoya, way away off the tourist route.
Mr. Sato, that owned Act Surfboards, had a mate who was a bit of an entrepreneur and thought, hey, I can take you on the world stage. I'll sponsor, you know. So they did. Sponsored Dave McCauley. Dave was in his heyday. Suddenly they had more work than they could do. They got Cole up there shaping, and Sato was glassing them, but he couldn't glass enough. And that's when Cole picked me and come up with me and do all the finishing. So I went up there and did all the glassing, sanding, spraying and finishing Cole's boards up there, and it just exploded with Dave Mack in his heyday.
So it was a pretty awesome experience working in Japan. Japan at that stage was Japanese had more money than anyone else. They paid more money than anyone else for Surfboards, so they picked the best of the best everywhere in the world. And I remember rocking up there the first night and walking into their factory and seeing some boards that were glassed there, and I'm just going, Holy shit, can I glass as good as that? But this is what I got to do. So pressure was on, yeah. And suddenly there's 50 boards lined up there, and away we went. So we did that for about ten years, going up, doing Coles boards.
And then Dave, when he sort of eased off the tour, he started shaping, and so he was up there shaping, and again, I was finishing his boards. So, yeah, there was a ten year journey up there in Japan, finishing boards for those guys.
[01:01:18] Speaker D: I'm sure there'd be a few funny stories during that ten year journey.
[01:01:22] Speaker B: There's a lot of hard work stories. There wasn't a lot of fun going on. It was mostly in the bay, 12 hours a day, seven days a week.
[01:01:29] Speaker D: How many boards were you churning out?
[01:01:32] Speaker B: I was glassing sanding, shaping three boards a day.
It was pretty full on.
[01:01:40] Speaker D: Just a general question, ladies and gentlemen, Adam Kennedy.
Someone a local shaper said a quote the other day, you're not a shaper until you soaked more than 5000 boards. How many boards have you shaved?
[01:01:56] Speaker B: Got no idea. I haven't kept count.
[01:01:59] Speaker A: Stopped after 15.
[01:02:02] Speaker B: No, I don't know how many I've done. That's been 45 years and yeah, I don't know.
[01:02:08] Speaker D: So, what did you learn most about the time in Japan?
[01:02:12] Speaker B: Just refining the art, just repetition of doing that same thing.
It wasn't an open, creative thing for me, but it was certainly refined all the skills, so we were doing the.
[01:02:27] Speaker A: Best work possible, really. Original FIFO West Australian. Yeah. There you go. There you go.
[01:02:34] Speaker B: That's it. That was my mining stint.
[01:02:36] Speaker A: Nico Dramodas has chimed in with original FIFO worker like flying into Japan and shaping a bunch of boards and going back. Did you ever use a samurai sword to cut the blanks?
They look pretty sharp.
[01:02:52] Speaker E: Mum and dad did come back with a photo of him dressed up in kimonos with a sword.
[01:02:57] Speaker A: I'd like to see that.
[01:02:58] Speaker D: And that's the promo photo.
[01:03:00] Speaker A: There we go, mate.
[01:03:02] Speaker D: Get that photo.
[01:03:03] Speaker A: Japan's known for its mental snow and growing up in New Zealand. I'm assuming you got to touch it once or twice. Did you ever bashing my head against a brick wall here?
[01:03:18] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: Move on. Okay.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: Snow was super expensive back in those days.
[01:03:23] Speaker A: Still is now.
[01:03:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I couldn't afford to go to the snow, so no, I never went to the snow the whole time I.
[01:03:28] Speaker A: Lived in New Zealand. Really?
[01:03:29] Speaker B: Never went to the snow in Japan or Japan.
[01:03:31] Speaker A: Nothing.
[01:03:33] Speaker D: It's expensive these days.
[01:03:35] Speaker E: He leaves West Australia on the first cold April evening and doesn't go back for six months.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: I'm out of here on me boat.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: I'm allergic to it.
[01:03:46] Speaker A: Yeah, fair call.
All right. Well, mate, yeah, we could go down so many avenues with you guys shaping and all your influences and that. It's been a long journey for you guys, but let's talk about you guys as surfers. I mean, you guys are core surfers at heart.
And you're a crazy sailor as well, Augie, which makes sense now after you saying that your dad was a boat builder and that.
I remember once I was down here and we were shooting the breeze and you were telling me how the ebb and flow through the wind chop on the boat felt like high lines on a singly and how it gave you that feeling. And I was like, yeah, that's pretty cool. And you only got to look at John John Florence and his love of sailing to assimilate that passion that you have. Now, mate, what's the craziest sailing story you've got for Mean?
I think you told me as well that you've traveled internationally and sailed the Bahamas and all these spots.
I think it was you that said if you know how to sail the northwest of West Australia, you can sail anywhere. Was that you that told me that.
[01:04:58] Speaker B: Well, it probably was. Yeah. I think it's probably one of the hardcore spots in the world for wind and seas and conditions. And I know a lot of people that I've talked to sailed around the world, and when they've got to northwest Cape and gone south of that, they've gone, Shit, that was the worst bit in the whole world. If you cut your teeth on this coast, I think you've done all right. But Caribbean was the pinnacle.
We were down the eastern Caribbean Islands. And so you pull out of one island, you're in the Atlantic swells from there, so you're straight out of one island. And that's, I think, what I said to you. This is just like surfing for 8 hours on a 42 foot board and.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: It'S boiling or something in it. Yeah.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: And it's just again, it's the reason I surf. It's just a connection with nature and being part of the know.
[01:05:44] Speaker D: So, Caribbean, where else have you had some other amazing sailing, Auggie?
[01:05:49] Speaker B: Oh, up this coast. Up this coast has been the best, I reckon.
[01:05:53] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:05:53] Speaker B: I can't wait to get back here.
[01:05:55] Speaker A: No one wants to hear about how everything went. Smooth sailing, for want of better phrases, mate. We don't care about the good times you had. Tell us about the time you nearly died. That's what we want to hear about. Tell us where it all went wrong, Augie.
[01:06:09] Speaker D: Jessica, what's been on it?
[01:06:10] Speaker B: There's been plenty of those. Yeah.
[01:06:11] Speaker A: Give me one, give me one.
[01:06:14] Speaker B: No. Well, that's one of them, but no.
[01:06:16] Speaker A: Where I get excited about the guy.
[01:06:18] Speaker E: Every time I go out there.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: I think probably the worst one was when one of our first trips up north and headed south out of Steep Point and Shark Bay down past the Zydorf Cliffs, and there's nowhere to stop until you get to Geraldton. So it's overnight, a couple of days. And that was the last time Cheryl did it. She flew home from Shark Bay after that. It's horrible.
[01:06:40] Speaker A: It's like, what, 150 K's of 150 meters, vertical cliff, basically, with eight foot swells rolling into them.
[01:06:47] Speaker B: So it's the cliffs, the cliffs are deep. Like, you can throw a stone at the shore, but it's 100 meters deep. So the swells come in the angle they come in at, they rebound back off the cliff. So you've got swells coming this way, rebounding back that way. You got the lure and current going that way, you got the subtly going that way.
It's like one of those old Japanese.
[01:07:06] Speaker A: Pictures of the random waves.
[01:07:09] Speaker E: Every rabbits in a south.
[01:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go. Every day. I like the way you've taken that to your generation, Zach, and made it affordable. That's cool.
Yeah.
[01:07:25] Speaker B: Jed was with me on one of those trips, coming back from there and trying to pull a tuna like this in over the back and conditions like that.
[01:07:33] Speaker A: He's like, dad, I'm on I got a thumper and you're like, we're all about to die. Cut them off.
[01:07:38] Speaker B: Let them go.
[01:07:38] Speaker A: You're like, But I've got the biggest fish of my life, mate. We did let them go, mate. It's pretty epic.
You've created a life around surfing and sailing and ocean.
It's really a bit of a gypsy life, in all honesty. And well played to Cheryl for going along with the gig.
Well played, Cheryl.
Mate, it's pretty impressive and you can really see the transition between sailing and surfing. And just, like, you say, the edges of the boat and the edges of the board. And your dad built it and it's pretty cool. And now Zach's. Third generation. God damn it. Makes me want to ride a Z shape. I feel like I've been missing out, actually. Like, what have I been doing? I need to up my ante.
[01:08:30] Speaker D: But you can get a custom, mate, he'll shoot you anything you want.
[01:08:33] Speaker A: I've got so many customs from here. Maybe more than anyone, except for Baz. Baz is probably the only guy that's got more customs than me from here. But I've got a lot, mate, one question that sort of maybe ties into your sailing. Could be surfing, could be sailing. What's the most alone you've ever felt in the ocean? And this is a question for both of you.
[01:08:57] Speaker D: You didn't know ads. He was deep, but he's deeper. Art.
Talk about his feelings.
[01:09:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:08] Speaker E: Probably my worst wipeout, which I feel like changed my trajectory when I was younger was when I was younger, I was pretty keen on getting out in the bigger stuff. And then we went over to Rotness. Would have been like 1314 or something.
And we were like, yeah, we're riding out the strickos and Mum and dad were riding. I was like, they're taking too long, but they're probably carrying all my stuff. But I had my board, so I Bioted ahead and I was like, Looks good, I'm out there. Didn't really check it, got out there and then I was like, oh, kind of solid. And then I went in for one, missed it. And then it started. Just ledging a couple of backless, sort of six to eight foot sort of sets. And I was like, oh, got the first one ahead. Thought I was fine, but then was like, okay, I'm still under. Did the whole grabbed my leggy, start to climb, still not at the surface. Start swimming, start that, like, suck back on your throat thing when you run out of oxygen. And then just got to the surface as the next whitewater was there.
Second one. And then third one was same sort of thing. And I caught it in. And then Mum and dad had just got down there and hadn't seen me out there yet. I was like went in and then just started Bawling crying.
[01:10:32] Speaker A: I was like.
[01:10:35] Speaker E: And that was like.
[01:10:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I really want some big waves anymore.
[01:10:41] Speaker E: So I felt alone until I found my mom on the beach.
[01:10:50] Speaker B: What about you, Auggie? Well, yeah, I don't know. I've got a real alone time.
[01:10:54] Speaker E: That's my favorite bit.
[01:10:55] Speaker A: That's my favorite bit.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: That's what I was leading up to, I think, after Cheryl bailed out on me after the Zydal Cliffs, then I'd do the trip up north to Shark Bay and back by myself and shit. I reckon that time alone on the ocean's been the best. Not that I don't dug a bit.
[01:11:20] Speaker D: Of a hole there, I think, but.
[01:11:22] Speaker B: Anyway, no, I love time alone on the ocean and that's the best time in the surf, too, is being alone out there. I love it. You're never alone. You got birds and dolphins and shit.
[01:11:32] Speaker D: You never west in the surf anymore, that's for sure.
[01:11:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:11:35] Speaker D: Thanks, COVID.
Now, Zach, I was asking your old man about special boards that's hanging up in the rafters and around the shop. Is there a board in here that sort of brings some good memories to you or brings a good story to tell?
[01:11:53] Speaker E: Yeah, there's a couple of mine over there, but there's the one that's a bit old and yellow. That's my first board I ever yeah, that was pretty awesome. Just I've been glassing and stuff for a while, but for dad to step in the bay with me and just look over my shoulder shaping, that was just, like, exciting to get to that point. But the one next to it, just behind Ali there, big L.
That's one of Josh Kerr's boards that are shaped for him that he rode in his CT heat in Margaret River.
[01:12:36] Speaker A: Is that the one that he beat Taj in the final? Because if it is, you might have to leave the building.
Controversial.
[01:12:43] Speaker E: No, it wasn't that one, but I wish it was not just that board, but the first link up with Josh was that was a moment in my shaping career that I was living in Sydney. It was 2012 and I'd been shaping a few boards for Jay for a while and then a couple of the other rusty boys were like, oh, keen to get a couple. And so the arrangement was I was shaping two boards for Jay, two boards for Noah Dean and two boards for Josh Kerr, and we're going to fly up to the Gold Coast after the Snapper CT and they were going to have a go on them and I was like, pretty excited, but stressed. It's ten or eleven years ago. I was at a point in my shaving where I was sort of wanting to make it, but just didn't really have the self confidence or anything yet, so I was pretty nervous. And then they ran the first couple of rounds of the comp and I was shaping the boards and then this huge flat spell. They just went on hold for ages, got the boards done and was flying up there and they still hadn't finished the comp. And then I was like, I've already booked my flight. I got there. So I was like, oh, we'll probably just kirzey was in the comp. The other guys weren't in the comp. But I was like, oh, we'll just wait till they're finished to ride them. But they're like, no, we'll go to the Sabo. They all ride them. And Kirze was like, yeah, this little five eight feels kind of fun. Like, my ride in the comp tomorrow. And I was like, part of me was excited and the part of me that's a competitive surfer was like, that's pretty dumb. You should ride one of your favorites.
You should ride one of your favorites and not this thing. And he was it feels pretty good. And then so the next morning, first heat was the round before the quarters, and he had Haytor alves, and he just waxed him walk over.
And I was like, just overanalyzing every little drop of water out of the place. I was like, Is he catching rail?
And he got through that. He and then got to the quarters and then was against Kelly and I couldn't even watch.
[01:14:59] Speaker D: I was like, Was Kelly on your board? No, he's back on the bananas.
[01:15:04] Speaker E: Different years. Different years.
So then, yeah, I could barely what? I was just like the nervous energy was through the roof and it was a bit of a seesaw heat, and he ended up just getting the edge over Kelly. And I was just standing there on the beach. It was a point where it sort know, had been shaping for a while, but it was a bit of a point of like, I could actually make it doing this, like, to come from Dunsbury. And then all of a sudden standing on the beach at Snapper Rocks in a CT Kurze's riding my board, he's just knocked out Kelly.
[01:15:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:15:46] Speaker D: So how long ago was that, Zach?
[01:15:48] Speaker E: So that was 2012. And then after that heat, all the other shapers, they're sort of in the competitors area. So I went down there, went down there. I was like, oh, can I get it in the competitors area? They're like, no way.
I was, oh, yeah, that's a good reality check right there.
But then, yeah, he ended up getting knocked next heat by D'Souza. But that was the year Taj went on to win. And, yeah, all the boys were up there. There was a big dinner that Taj had and ended up seeing Darren Hanley there and talked to and he come up and he was like, oh, you shaped Kirzey's little five eight. And gave me a bit of a nod. And I was like, that was a moment. I was like, this is pretty fucking cool. TB did that Darren Ham.
[01:16:37] Speaker D: Okay.
Yeah, that's epic.
Kirzie made the semis on your board. He wasn't unbelievable surfer, but he never did that well in comps, did he? So should have just carried on with you, mate.
[01:16:53] Speaker E: I completely turned him off high performance boards over, the mind you, he beat.
[01:17:00] Speaker D: Kelly Slater in that comp. Kelly was about 63 at that age at that time, too. How is he now? 51, 52. Okay.
He's actually going backwards in age. That's why he's going so well. All right, so we are going to open up questions to the crowd.
Has anybody in the crowd got a question? Surely cheryl's? Cheryl you can't ask any, because I know everything.
Actually, Nemu, we've got a few past and present staff members at Yahoo have spent a bit of time here. One. Mickey Jimoto spent good five years. The Doctor so Mick wants to come up and ask Auggie and Zach a question. Come on, Mickey.
[01:17:44] Speaker A: Come on, Mick. I just grabbed my beer and tried to talk into it like a microphone.
I was like, hey, Mickey, come up here.
I need that one.
Get up there.
Come on, Mickey. What do you got? The doctor. Mickey dramoda. How are you, mate?
Yeah, really good.
[01:18:02] Speaker F: It feels really good to be inside these walls, this place.
I think the best way to describe this place is it's more important to us than it is to you guys, because what you guys created is probably, I reckon, the most core surf shop, surf experience, surf, whatever you want to call it on the planet. There's probably another one out there. I'd like to see it if it's better than this.
Just sitting back here in the crowd, looking up and the moana you called, which wasn't a moana, which I've looked at online so many times and thought.
[01:18:46] Speaker D: That'D be sick out of yells.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: How good would that be?
[01:18:49] Speaker F: And it's like, no, that's not a moana, that's just a single fin.
But, yeah, my five years that I spent inside these walls at another place wasn't here is more to me about the characters that I met and the people. And it's interesting to see, for example, to see can't even remember your name, Zach. But know to see Zach put his hand up and take over the reins. When I remember Augie back in the day going, I'm doing this so these guys don't have to.
But I'm stoked that you are, because it's important that this place keeps going and you're the rightful air, because Jed doesn't want to do nah, look. Nothing but love.
[01:19:47] Speaker A: Azzy yeah, man yeah. Nice work. Mickey D. The Doctor he's a legend.
[01:19:54] Speaker E: Of a man, a legend of the.
[01:19:55] Speaker A: Yelling up board riders. An absolute frother good human and patron of the Yahoo family. Like many of us here, mates, if we've got any burning questions, that people out there are just, like, fucking losing their marbles because they just want to grab this mic out of my hand and ask them a question, feel free to come on up.
No dramas. But in the interim, you guys have a think about it. If you want to rip in. What do you got? TBN.
[01:20:22] Speaker D: Well, just while we're waiting for someone to ask a question, just listening to Mick, how does that make you feel, Auggie?
[01:20:29] Speaker B: Really proud. And when Mick, I was with us, was a great time. We were expanding. We were in our heyday, weren't we? It was all happening. Mick was a big part of it. He was our front man.
[01:20:42] Speaker A: That was Clark Street, wasn't it?
[01:20:44] Speaker B: Around the corner, Clark Street there.
[01:20:45] Speaker A: It was a long way away. It was like, oh, good. 68 meters as the crow flies over that way. But if you drove, it was about 102. A long way. Long way. That's where I first met you guys, the original there. Chappie was shaping in there. Chapstar was like the he was the.
[01:21:05] Speaker E: Young gun, wasn't he?
[01:21:06] Speaker A: Chapstar, back in the day, down and.
[01:21:08] Speaker B: Was learning the ropes and yeah, Chappie was in there. So Miko was selling mine and Chappie's boards. Mako was with us shaping. Then Mano came on board for a while there, and yeah, it was all going on.
[01:21:20] Speaker A: It was a good spot, man. You guys sponsored the Lubrication videos. You were my sponsor.
We did.
[01:21:28] Speaker B: I'm bugging if I know, but it was just heart and soul. It was just a promotion.
[01:21:33] Speaker A: Tonight on the podcast, there was no money. I can't remember what I got. I got something good, though. I felt like it was a good thing.
[01:21:41] Speaker B: I don't know what it was.
[01:21:43] Speaker A: I remember filming a piece of paper with Yahoo logo on it and zooming out, and that was, like, my special.
[01:21:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that was it. That's what we got for our money.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: No, it was sick, man. And I felt like man, I felt really good when you guys sponsored me.
As I say, I actually can't remember what we got, but I probably got, like, $50 off a board. But it didn't matter. It legitimized, what I was doing. I was making a local surf vid, and you guys were the local shapers, and Chappie was there, and you were there, and, man, it was Yahoo. You're on my videos, and it was a great moment for me.
[01:22:18] Speaker B: So thanks for well, yeah, we were just stoked that it was all organic and part of the whole scene of what we were doing here.
[01:22:26] Speaker A: Yeah, it was sick.
[01:22:27] Speaker E: Even that sort of time for me, from your guys point of view. I was probably just hanging around after work or whatever, but I still vividly remember being in Clark Street sort of hanging around and all these guys are legends to me that it's like, there's the three big shaping baits, all the boards coming out.
[01:22:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:22:49] Speaker E: Like you say, like Chappie mano Jr. All guys. But Dad's got the big primo shaping bay down the end, man.
[01:22:57] Speaker A: He had the big dog shapers.
Naturalist area, man. Like, they were in there at Yahoo.
[01:23:02] Speaker E: Yeah, but then even then, I'd go through and there's Charlie Glasson and there's Twig, Polishing and Shannon, and they're all giving me shit.
[01:23:10] Speaker A: I was like, who are these bunch?
And let's remember, we're talking late 80s, early 90s, when Dunsra was man, it was definitely more Wild West than the polished up version that we see a lot of today. I would like to think that pretty much everyone in here today is not that polished up version. We are the real version of Dunsra back in the day. But, mate, like, late 80s, early to mid 90s, like, Dunsra was pretty raw, man. It was full of surfing hippies who were just down here to make a go of it. And I did have a little note down here wanting to shout out to one of those great men from that era who was an enigma of your glassing bay Twiggy. He became Taj's photographer before digital SIM cards entered the world.
He was a glasser at Yahoo. That was his gig. And then he went on to be Taj's photographer. Is that right?
[01:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right.
[01:24:09] Speaker A: Give us a twiggy story.
[01:24:10] Speaker B: Twiggy story.
[01:24:11] Speaker A: I heard a crazy story, mate.
[01:24:13] Speaker B: I heard this kids in the block.
[01:24:16] Speaker A: Yeah, no, no, they're gone. He's got his headphones on. My kids are gone. I heard a story from Richie Myers on the building site only a week ago. We all know Richie Myers.
It must be true if Richie told me because and he reckons that his wife once walked into the Yahoo glassing room in Clark Street and Twiggy apparently got his name for one of his appendages. And he slapped his appendage straight on the surfboard and said, have a look at that. And she was quite impressed. And is there any truth to that rumor? Is that why Twiggy got his name? Or did that happen?
[01:25:00] Speaker B: True?
[01:25:01] Speaker D: Yeah, I didn't witness it, but I'd.
[01:25:03] Speaker B: Say it's 100% true. I heard stories from the bakery where Twiggy had asked a pretty young girl behind the counter to get him that cake down there. And when she went to get it, there was someone on the outside of the counter.
[01:25:16] Speaker E: Did Twiggy teach you how to tell if a surfboard's good or not by.
[01:25:19] Speaker A: Just putting your dick on it?
Well, look, I wish I was the Twiggy. But from all reports, I wish I was Twiggy. But he was a character of Dunsborough, much loved for the listeners out there, not from this area that are listening online. Like, he became Taj's personal photographer. One of the first guys with a massive 600 mil Canon lens and the wrist.
[01:25:54] Speaker D: Yes, he had a zoom lens. Azzi out of big zoom lens. We understand. Yeah. Okay, we got it. We got it right there. You got the headphones on still.
[01:26:06] Speaker A: Cool. All right, here's another one more Twiggy story. All right.
[01:26:11] Speaker D: I know Zach might have one. You got another Twiggy stream? Just a quick one?
[01:26:15] Speaker E: Yeah. I don't want to all right, hold.
[01:26:21] Speaker A: On, Cheryl, get up here. Come up here. No, we can't hear you from over there. Cheryl. Cheryl. Cheryl. Cheryl, says Mark's. Wife Cheryl, mother of Zach and Jed.
[01:26:38] Speaker G: No, I'm just going to say I want to shut down the Twiggy stories. Being the only woman in a surfboard factory of 15 guys, I've seen and heard it all and you don't want.
[01:26:51] Speaker B: To hear it, believe me.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: That's enough.
[01:26:55] Speaker D: Okay, fair enough. All right, twiggy. Rest in peace. He's out.
[01:27:00] Speaker E: Okay, just a bit more on before from me coming up, being young through all those guys and then eventually coming up to now, where sort of dad's hit kind of legend status as a shaper and I'm trying to fill in behind him. And then now what we've got going in now with James, who's in here, who he's working with closely with Augie, doing his shapes and stuff as well.
And then Cooper down the back there, who's been working more with me, and he's doing the doing the glassing and sanding and stuff. So just from me being that age of just sniffing resin and smelling siggies out the back to now coming and seeing that with the next generation, not the siggies around, but they're all vaping or whatever, I'm pretty sure.
I don't know, it's kind of been a bit of a moment for me the last couple of years to be like, oh, it's cool to go from that, sort of always looking up to now being able to pass my knowledge on to the next crew. And with us coming into the business, hopefully that can keep going on and on.
[01:28:21] Speaker D: All right? Yeah. Sounds like you're almost giving out a bit of a Steve Ermond salute there, Zach.
Now, one of the things we love doing on Barrelset podcast is the Steve MWAN salute. Have I got a little thing crikey? There we go. I did it right. All right, so the Steve M salute while everybody gets a drink. Now, Steve MWAN salute is awarded to somebody who's done something great in surfing or otherwise in the last little bits.
Zachy?
[01:28:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:28:56] Speaker D: Have you got one, mate?
[01:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:28:58] Speaker E: Well, like you said, just playing on that, I'd say just all the crew here at Yahoo and the everyone here tonight, to be able to make this what it is, we couldn't do it without, you know, before, you know, Cooper and James and all the stuff. I was just thrashing around out the back by myself. So I've got to thank them for me being able to relax a little bit.
[01:29:25] Speaker D: So what you're saying is they allow you to carry Hollywood megastars on your back at the beach whilst doing all the work at the shop, sweeping the floors, oggy. Have you got a Steve Irwin sleep, mate?
[01:29:42] Speaker B: I'd say to me, it's just everyone in the water with a smile on their face, because that's what I'm all about. That's what my life's work is, is to. Make people happy in the water. So everyone out there smiling, having a good time.
[01:29:54] Speaker A: Fuck yeah. That's it.
[01:29:56] Speaker D: Pure surf tape. Love it.
All right, Steve. Owen, have you got Steve Irwin for us, mate? I think Steve Irwin doing our first live podcast and being able to come here. Thanks very much for bringing the podcast into the Yahoo HQ. So it's a bit of a Steve Irwin for us. Usually I'm sitting in the yelling up.
[01:30:19] Speaker A: Shed quarters looking at azi.
[01:30:23] Speaker E: Nothing wrong with that.
[01:30:26] Speaker A: Shed quarters. Yeah.
[01:30:31] Speaker D: But second to what you were saying before, what a core shop this is, and it's a privilege to be here tonight. So that's my seaborne salute.
[01:30:38] Speaker A: Neme.
[01:30:38] Speaker D: Lovely work, that's Kennedy.
[01:30:45] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I don't have a Steve because I feel like it's about these guys and we're unlimited time and, you know, I like to do 6 hours and we're trying to do two. We're at 130, so we got a bit, we got an hour, we're okay. Do anyone go home yet? If you do, if you do, you can fuck off right now. Fucking doors over there. But no, seriously, I don't have a Steve. I'm the same as T Bone. I'm just so grateful to be in the Yahoo shedquarters, contributing to Southwest surf culture on a fucking Friday afternoon. You beauty.
[01:31:16] Speaker D: There you go.
All right, well, I do have a Steve Earn slate, and it's not nothing new. Surfing all it's maxi, 200. Not out in the World Cup game the other day.
[01:31:31] Speaker A: Big knock in the cricket.
[01:31:33] Speaker D: Big knock in the cricket.
[01:31:34] Speaker A: Okay, cool.
[01:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:31:35] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:31:35] Speaker D: It's well done. Good for him.
[01:31:37] Speaker A: Anyone?
[01:31:38] Speaker D: Glenn Maxwell? 200. 200 knot.
[01:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:31:43] Speaker D: Go, Mel.
[01:31:43] Speaker A: That was bigger than the knock that Namu knocked out in the shower this morning.
[01:31:50] Speaker D: Just a teeny.
[01:31:51] Speaker A: Maybe I didn't need to. Right, what do you got, Micko?
Yes, I do. Want to hear a story about a big knock? Mickey Dramota, please come front and center.
As if I was going to say.
[01:32:05] Speaker F: No, I've got to come back up because probably this one needs to be told. So back in my day, I got lumped with some responsibility. The Augrams used to always take the grommets to Bali once a year.
[01:32:17] Speaker A: And I was so jealous, I was like, Fuck, I'm the one who's doing the glassing every year.
[01:32:22] Speaker D: Me.
[01:32:23] Speaker F: No, Augie used to stipulate, we've got enough people to do the shape in that we just need someone to sell the stuff. And I was like, shop boy, whatever.
I did shape one.
I wrote it out of obligation. But anyway, I stopped there.
But I was trying to bust tables at Enjoyer, a local restaurant at the time to make a few extra dollars. And the Augrams had gone to Bali and one thing I had to do was look after Jed and Zach's fish tank their fish. So Cheryl brought it down the shop record.
[01:33:01] Speaker A: Enjoy was like pretty much a dispensary at the time, wasn't it?
As well as sidelining as a restaurant may not be true.
[01:33:10] Speaker F: We'll get on to that. So down comes the fish tank. The fish tank is on the side of the counter. And all I had to do was feed it. I had to just feed those fish. I don't know how many were there.
[01:33:23] Speaker A: There were more that started there than finished.
Anyway.
[01:33:31] Speaker F: So anyway, I might have put off the first year, but the second year I didn't. Anyway, I went and busted tables and as we know it, enjoy it.
There was nowhere to go, was it?
So the restaurant restaurant would close and my job was to sell beer out of the fridge to whoever, $5 a beer and just sell them as many as we could. They'd lock the doors and it was sick. It was pretty good fun.
Now I hooked up with these couple of hosties. I don't know where they're from, but we went out to some party at Yelling up and stayed out there all night. And then but the next day I was broken.
I was in a bad way, but I had to turn up to work and I had to open those doors. And I don't really remember what happened after that, but I was just rolling around in the sand out the back and I remember Twiggy and Chappie and all them going, there's another guy out the front.
[01:34:43] Speaker A: What are you doing? Where are you going to go?
[01:34:45] Speaker F: I couldn't do anything. So they sorted out. One thing I do remember is the fish tank went off the counter.
[01:34:52] Speaker A: I don't know who did it. I think it was Chappie. But those fish, they never survived.
[01:34:57] Speaker D: There was no fish left. That's why they took the tank away.
[01:35:00] Speaker F: But I was too broken to care.
[01:35:02] Speaker E: So I don't know what happened to.
[01:35:03] Speaker D: Your fish, I don't remember.
[01:35:05] Speaker F: But I do apologize about that one.
[01:35:09] Speaker D: Yeah, Mickey.
All right.
Now, in life, we always have to balance the good with the bad, the light with the dark, the good with the evil.
Henceforth we have the Clyde Palmer cup. Zach, would you like to nominate Mick Dramoda for killing all your fish?
[01:35:33] Speaker A: I didn't care. I was in Bali.
[01:35:37] Speaker D: All right, so if you don't know about this one, the Clyde Palmer Cup is awarded to someone that we are not big fans of in surfing or otherwise. I tend to give it to people that leave dog poo on the beach and England sporting teams.
Sorry, Alastair.
Zach, have you got anyone that's been buzzing you the wrong way?
[01:36:00] Speaker E: Mine is not someone, but something.
And it's been bugging me for years, I guess is that everything with surfing, it's like you're down the beach, it's awesome, you're in the ocean, it's beautiful around nature, and then you come back to make surfboards. And what we're currently making surfboards out of is still pretty prehistoric and toxic. So what they're looking at now as far as environmentally friendly stuff, I'm just so keen to get going on that. But obviously it has to still go.
[01:36:37] Speaker A: Good and be economically competitive, which is probably an issue as well, I would imagine.
[01:36:44] Speaker E: Yeah, so there's some stuff coming. There's some sort of mushroom fungus blanks.
[01:36:49] Speaker A: That I'm keen for. That fucking ice.
I can help you, man. I got contact.
[01:37:01] Speaker D: That was like the Qi bell. Ding, ding, ding.
[01:37:06] Speaker E: That's going to be my sort of mission over the next couple of years, is I really want to get the factory where we're making boards to be.
[01:37:13] Speaker A: A bit are they seriously going to start making blanks out of mushrooms?
[01:37:17] Speaker E: They've already started. Yeah. And so there's some epoxies that are like there's one super SAP that's out of, like, tree SAP instead of petrol. So the quicker we can get over to that side and start the contrast now of going to the beach for a surf and then coming back to the factory, where there's all the chemicals and stuff is pretty jarring.
It's kind of stabbed myself in the foot a little bit there. But I want to take the steps to move it forward to get it to a place where it's a bit better.
[01:37:51] Speaker A: It sounds like a Clive Cross with the Steve, and quite often, man, we do have a Steve Cross with the Clive. It's a double edged sword, so I can imagine. Yeah, it's a Steve Palmer. It's like a chicken palmy down the local tavern.
Augie, you don't strike me as a man who's generally angry, but this is your one chance, this is your one chance in life to just say, Fuck Brent the painter. He's so happy all the time, I just want to punch him in the nose.
Sorry, brent nothing. That's why. No, I'm serious now. You're very happy man in the front now shout out to Brent from Duns Repainting. He absolutely loves surfing and just keeps chucking in massive novelty checks to the local board riders constantly. He's a legend.
[01:38:46] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:38:46] Speaker B: No, Brent's. The epitome of the Steve Irwin Award, I reckon. He's the man. He's the man that keeps smiling in the water. So, yeah, can't agree with that one.
But Clive for me is the opposite of my Steve Irwin award. It's those guys, and I'm not going to name names because I'm not a person that gets angry. No, not going to name the names. I think we all know the name that I'm not going to name.
[01:39:11] Speaker A: Begin with G.
[01:39:14] Speaker B: But it's those guys that yells that have got a sour face on. They're the Clive palmers to.
[01:39:30] Speaker D: All right, we've had a couple of Clives. You got one T bone?
[01:39:34] Speaker A: No, you're good.
[01:39:37] Speaker D: All right. I would like to open it up down at Bears last Saturday afternoon.
[01:39:48] Speaker A: Let's not get personal. T bo.
[01:39:50] Speaker D: And it was a pretty warm day.
[01:39:51] Speaker A: Hands up.
[01:39:52] Speaker D: Who puts on their thongs to walk down to the beach when it's a bit hot.
[01:39:55] Speaker B: Not this, not this.
[01:39:58] Speaker D: So I didn't have an ordinary pair of thongs, so I actually had a.
[01:40:01] Speaker B: Pair of flops that I bought from.
[01:40:03] Speaker D: Germany back in 2019. Super comfortable thongs.
[01:40:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:40:07] Speaker B: Cost me about 100 euro.
[01:40:11] Speaker D: Anyway, I mean, whoever took them probably needed them more than me.
[01:40:17] Speaker A: That's rough. But went for a surf, like, walked.
[01:40:19] Speaker D: Down to the stairs, parked my thongs off, went for a surf, came back and thought, okay, they're not there. Sort of walked around thinking, may I might have forgot where I've put them. Went back up to the car park. Joby was up there, sort of consoling me about it. And I was pretty dark and I thought I'll go back down and have another look. And I went back down having a look and they weren't there.
Luckily, I had some cheeky monkey in the car and I thought about it.
People need shoes, they can have them.
[01:40:53] Speaker B: Adsie.
[01:40:53] Speaker D: I had cheeky monkey in the backseat.
[01:40:56] Speaker B: It's all about.
[01:40:59] Speaker A: It looks like it's.
[01:41:00] Speaker D: Going to be wanted. How's your health at the moment, Adi? You know that? I've been jumping in the AG One program. The athletic greens. Have you been on the Athletic greens?
[01:41:08] Speaker A: Did, mate. I was ripping into them. Went to Bali for a couple of weeks.
[01:41:12] Speaker D: Nice.
[01:41:12] Speaker A: And found it was a good little routine. Wake up do the dawny athletic greens in the dunny. So the family didn't wake the family up? Not with dunny water, but wouldn't have mattered. Still would have tasted good. Yeah. So that was my little routine. Dawny athletic greens. Paddle out, surf for two and a half, 3 hours and then come back and spend the rest of the day with the family. It was a good way to start your day.
[01:41:34] Speaker D: Sick effort, mate. And don't forget to go to Elio. Ladies and gentlemen.
[01:41:54] Speaker G: Hello.
So my question is to both of you, what legacy do you want to leave behind for both of you?
[01:42:08] Speaker E: Do you want to go first?
[01:42:09] Speaker B: Well, for me, I'm just stoked. That life's work. We've got it to this stage. I'm pretty proud of what we created. Absolutely humbled by all new people, our family and friends. And it's just really humbling for me. I'm just the guy that did what I love for my life and here you are all here to listen about it and so many people appreciate it. I'm stoked. And then for Zach and Ellie to come up and want to take over.
[01:42:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:42:36] Speaker B: I'm just proud. This is going to go for another 30 years and Zach and Ellie are going to make it better and hopefully give me a job.
[01:42:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you'll be cleaning toilets, mate. Don't worry.
[01:42:53] Speaker B: I want to keep shaping boards so I fall off a perch, but I've lost the energy to don't worry, you will be. Yeah, I know I will be. But you know, when you fall off.
[01:43:02] Speaker A: We'Ll just duct tape you back to the perch just to keep on going. Strap him up, boys. He's got another one in.
[01:43:09] Speaker B: Yeah, but yeah, with Zach coming up with what he's doing, we're complimentary in what we do. And now I've got James. I've been teaching James the shape and he's coming along great guns, and I'm proud to have him on board and cooper with the glassing. We've got the next generation coming up that's going to keep this going. And I'm just passionate about custom made board and to keep that alive.
[01:43:35] Speaker A: And I can verify that. I've got so many custom. You've been my shaper.
[01:43:39] Speaker B: I know, I looked at your file the other day.
[01:43:43] Speaker A: Once again, it's only Baz. Me and baz. Showdown in the car park. Two best Yahoo customers. Winner takes all. Baz.
[01:43:51] Speaker D: Any other questions from the audience? Come on up, bud.
[01:43:53] Speaker A: I just wanted to ask Auggie, jed told me a bit about your NZ days.
[01:43:58] Speaker B: Siphoning power.
[01:44:02] Speaker A: Is that why we just got a block to a shack? Yeah.
[01:44:05] Speaker B: Okay.
That's a story we missed. Yeah. Okay.
We're winding the clock back a bit now. So that was growing up in a small town school, teachers for parents. They're like, you're going off to university, son. You can do better than being a surfer. And so they sent me off to uni. And wasn't me.
I never went to lectures. I went surfing and make boards, made some boards and then moved down to the beach and think, well, here I am. I got nowhere to live. So I drove around town for a bit and found this old house. This one looks like there's no one living there.
[01:44:41] Speaker E: I moved in.
[01:44:44] Speaker B: That was it. So I just moved in there. Me and my mate Brito, we hung out there for the summer. Just living in this place. No power, no water, anyway, surfed all summer. Then my brother came along and went, hey, I reckon I can wire this up. I can get power to this house from the pole hydro setup. I don't know how they do bypassing the meter. So then all of a sudden, I've got this shack I'm living in with power. So I'm sleeping in one room, I'm shaping in the next room, I'm glassing in the room next to it. And there we were making boards in the house to freak.
[01:45:15] Speaker E: Because, mate, that's all that's the original airbnb, right?
[01:45:20] Speaker A: Because, mate, you look back at, like, Morning of the Earth video, baddie treeloir shaping up, that thing, the go surf. And Gary, mate, the sand is like two foot long. They probably drew, like, $100 worth of power each day just to run that thing. It's not like today. So bypassing the power to shape up a board was actually a serious saving back then, wasn't it?
[01:45:41] Speaker B: For free, rent free.
[01:45:45] Speaker A: All right.
Worst surf trip ever.
Jedi just yelled out, Where do you fear of airports start? Has that got something to do with worst surf ship ever, does it, Jed?
[01:45:57] Speaker B: Well, it was a great surf trip, but it started out badly because I've never been able to afford to go to the Ment. We just sold a house. We went, Boys, this is it. Got a bit of money in the bank. Let's spend some of it before we buy another house. So booked a trip to the Ment? Yeah, Cheryl stayed home, booked a trip to the Ment. I mean, I'm paying for it. You guys friggin'organize it. Stupid mistake.
We're at KL Airport running to get this connection through this super crowded airport. These guys had booked a connection that was absolutely too tight.
[01:46:29] Speaker A: These guys is in. Zach and Jed, your son.
[01:46:32] Speaker E: Five minutes to get your bag, get.
[01:46:34] Speaker A: Off one plane, get on the next one. Right.
How old were these guys roughly, at the time?
[01:46:39] Speaker B: Roughly old enough to know better than to do that.
[01:46:43] Speaker A: Old enough for you to trust them with the itinerary because you didn't know how to use the internet, obviously.
[01:46:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that was probably it more than yeah. So that was a scary moment, running to catch a plane, wondering if our boards were going to get there.
[01:46:59] Speaker A: And how about you, Zacho? Worst surf trip?
[01:47:05] Speaker D: Uh, they're all good when you surf as well as you do, right?
[01:47:08] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. I surf as good as him. Yeah. No bad surf trips.
[01:47:13] Speaker E: Yeah, I have an advanced.
[01:47:17] Speaker D: All right, you got the worst one.
[01:47:19] Speaker A: What a wanker.
[01:47:21] Speaker E: Looking back when you're younger, you're like, oh, maybe that was dad. This was dad. But now with kids and responsibilities and stuff, you look back, you're like, man, they're all good. If you're complaining about a surf trip, get out of here.
[01:47:37] Speaker A: It looks like Ellie's got something to say about that.
Ellie, you want to come up and voice anything?
Oh, yeah. All right.
[01:47:49] Speaker E: There was one day for my 30th through one of the state rounds. I won four return flights to somewhere in Indonesia. So I hit up. A few of the boys were like I was like, if you want to come, I'll use these flights for all of us. And they were like, yes. So we booked Pit Stop, Hill mentalis, flew to mentalis, still had to pay accommodation or whatever. And then we got there. First day was good. And then it just went flat for, like, five or six days.
[01:48:25] Speaker A: That's rough.
[01:48:26] Speaker E: So there was one day in particular, like, paying $270 a night to be within half an hour of five of the best waves in the world. And we were just sitting on the couch watching a Fast and Furious DVD.
This is a little bit rough.
[01:48:42] Speaker A: That's real rough. That can easily qualify as worst ever.
Hey, mate, I got a shaper question. What's the strangest request you guys have ever had as a shaper? And hopefully it wasn't me.
You don't have to name names, just situation.
[01:49:06] Speaker E: I'm going to name names quickly.
Just quickly.
[01:49:11] Speaker D: Was it the fat boy model for?
[01:49:13] Speaker E: No, no, I'm still waiting on that. No, mine had nothing to do with the board. He just orders totally normal boards. But Henry Davies always gets me to write the dimensions in some whacked out spot, like up the nose or off the side or whatever. I'll still do it, but every time I just scratch my head and I'm.
[01:49:32] Speaker A: Like, what is going on here?
[01:49:33] Speaker E: So shout out to Henry.
[01:49:35] Speaker A: Good bloke.
[01:49:35] Speaker E: I love him, but that's the weirdest shit ever.
[01:49:39] Speaker D: Hank the love tank.
[01:49:40] Speaker B: All right, well, I don't think there's a weirdest because a lot of my boards are pretty weird anyway, so it's all normal for me.
[01:49:50] Speaker A: What's the worst thing? I mean, we're all pretty core surfers here. We've bought so many boards. We've bought them off the rack. We've dealt with custom shapers, like the people that are left at this time of the night. They're stayers, mate, we're proper.
What's the worst thing to ask your local shaper? What shouldn't we ask you?
[01:50:11] Speaker E: Is my board ready yet?
Just so you know, when that phone call comes through, it just gets shuffled back.
[01:50:25] Speaker D: What do you got, Auggie? Worth question.
[01:50:28] Speaker A: No.
[01:50:28] Speaker D: Auggie, do you hate when someone brings in another Shaper's board, say, can you.
[01:50:33] Speaker B: Shape me the exact board?
[01:50:35] Speaker D: But tweak it a bit?
[01:50:37] Speaker B: I don't hate it because if someone brings in something that works for them and they want it tweaked a bit or copied, then that's cool. If it's working for them, yeah, do it fun.
[01:50:47] Speaker D: Yeah.
[01:50:47] Speaker B: As long as they're having fun and it's the right ball for them. If I don't think it's right, then I'll tweak it.
[01:50:53] Speaker A: But.
[01:50:55] Speaker B: I think the worst thing it probably is when people come in with a little bit of knowledge, they think they know more than they know and they trying to guide us and what to do.
[01:51:07] Speaker A: That's why I've always been the perfect customer. Yeah, it's always easy, always grabs on board.
It works.
[01:51:20] Speaker D: T bone.
So just to go further on that one, so when people do come in and you're aware of their surfing ability and they want a banana board or they want something that's maybe too advanced or too whatever for them, how do you politely tell them, no, mate, that won't work.
[01:51:42] Speaker B: We just tell them it that's our job. You just give them what they yeah. No, we're going to tell them if it's wrong, I'll do whatever you want if I think it's going to work. But if I think it's wrong and it's not going to work for you, I'm not going to do it. I'll tell you that.
[01:51:57] Speaker D: So if Azzy comes in asking for a high performance shortboard, zach, what would you say back to Azi?
[01:52:05] Speaker E: Not much.
[01:52:08] Speaker D: Your board's not ready yet.
[01:52:10] Speaker A: Talk to dad.
[01:52:11] Speaker E: Yeah, I'll go get the supervisor.
[01:52:16] Speaker D: All right, gentlemen. I know that one of the questions that, as he likes to ask, I'm going to jump in instead is let's hear about we might have actually heard about Zach's worst wipeout, but let's hear a worst wipeout story from You Oggy.
[01:52:32] Speaker B: That's probably a Cal Barry story.
Yeah, Jake's, it would be. It's an evil way, but it's more evil when it's small. And that's a mistake I made.
It's only a head high day and it was high tide, so it's breaking right on that ledge. I went over the falls and landed on my bum. And I was seeing stars. I knew I got to get out. It's a hard enough spot to get out of anyway, isn't it?
[01:52:59] Speaker A: And if you've seen stars through a bum hit if you hit your head and you've seen stars, I understand. But if you've seen stars when you hit your bum, I mean, that's pretty solid.
[01:53:11] Speaker B: And, yeah, I was fading in and.
[01:53:13] Speaker A: Out fish is what you're saying.
[01:53:18] Speaker B: So, yeah, I crawled up the bank, got out of the water, somehow, drove the car back to we were just packing up to drive home, and Cheryl was pregnant with Zach, so she's like this, she can't drive the car. I'm stiff as a ball because I've just stuffed myself up, so I could hardly drive the car. So you drove the car because yeah.
So that was a long trip home from Calbaria. And then that was six weeks off work out of the water. It was gnarly.
[01:53:48] Speaker D: A little compressed spine there.
[01:53:50] Speaker B: Yeah, right now.
[01:53:52] Speaker D: Good song. What about you, Jackie?
[01:53:55] Speaker E: Well, I was just flicking through the old photo albums of us as kids. It was like Photos hanging out in the backyard. Photo of dad with one entire bum cheek that was just purple. And then back to kids playing in the backyard.
[01:54:12] Speaker A: Come grab some tins down the front. Don't be shy, everybody. It's not a video recording. You're not going to stuff up the viewing. Just come and grit some cans.
[01:54:20] Speaker D: All right, we have been going for a little while. We are going to wrap this up very shortly.
[01:54:25] Speaker A: All right? Have you got one?
[01:54:27] Speaker D: We got some beers.
[01:54:29] Speaker A: You got one? Namu.
Okay, Big Al, come on up here, Big Al.
This guy's actually going to come on our potty real soon with a real special section called he's on.
[01:54:43] Speaker E: Now, take the hypothetical for you, and it's a hard hypothetical. So this boy here, jed Ogram. Zach Ogram. North Shore. North shore of Dunsborough.
Aheet, perfect.
Wins. Backed off Castle Rock. Who wins the heat between these two guys?
[01:55:02] Speaker B: Well, that's a pretty good question, Al, because thanks, bro. That sums up why I don't like competitive surfing.
Jed's style is so totally different to Zach's, and I love watching them both for their totally different styles. So everyone's a winner to me, but.
[01:55:22] Speaker E: I'm just being a shit.
[01:55:24] Speaker B: I don't know. It's a good question. Because that's why I don't like competitive surfing. Because I can look at a heat of guys and not I don't know how you give points to watching surfing. To me, it's so individual. And these two guys are polar opposites in their style.
[01:55:38] Speaker E: That's why I asked that, because he's.
[01:55:40] Speaker A: Just trying to stir shit.
[01:55:42] Speaker E: He hasn't been mentioned much tonight, but.
[01:55:43] Speaker A: He'S been mentioned a bit. But, mate, I understand, because Jed and Zach, you must be so proud. Oggy, these guys are both fucking gentlemen in and out of the water, and they both rip in the water. There's a photo just over there on the Kelvinator of Jed just popping an air on one of those North Shore waves that Ali's talking about that Ali loves so much, boosting a proper air and that's like, I didn't even know you could do airs on Kelvina's, like and there's Jed doing one up there. You must be a proud man. Yeah.
[01:56:17] Speaker D: Jedi.
[01:56:20] Speaker A: Jed, do you want to come up and give us anything?
Yeah, okay. What do you got? What do you got, Jedi Ogram?
[01:56:29] Speaker E: I got to go to the toilet.
Good call.
[01:56:36] Speaker B: Out to you. And I am so proud of both these boys. I'd love to say I taught them everything they know and gave them a.
[01:56:40] Speaker A: Sense of style, but they trumped you.
[01:56:43] Speaker B: Didn't way better.
[01:56:44] Speaker A: They trumped you. It's beautiful. They're both bloody ripper blokes. And I've done a lot of time with both of them in and out of the water. And, yeah, they have fantastic styles, man. Jed has a very smooth style. I would say Zach is more power orientated. He's a great style, but, geez, he's a freaking big lad. It was about a few years ago and I was like, I didn't really realize how big and muscly Zach is. He's a big dude and he's power, man. No wonder he's jed.
[01:57:14] Speaker D: Ogren, good to see you, buddy.
[01:57:17] Speaker A: How are we, mate?
Jed is a little bit slimmer, and Jed, I feel like, has a jed.
[01:57:25] Speaker D: You'Re up here, budy.
[01:57:26] Speaker B: Welcome.
[01:57:27] Speaker D: Let's hear a little bit about thank you.
[01:57:30] Speaker A: Namu.
[01:57:30] Speaker D: Let him speak, mate.
Tell us a bit about your Yahoo story because you're obviously one of the.
[01:57:38] Speaker C: Well, obviously I feel like I've grown up in a shaping bay. Like, grown up weeping the floor and in amongst the dust, and that's where we were. And one of my earliest kind of memories of the factory was being given the broom and got nicknamed from the likes of Twig and Chaino and everyone.
[01:58:00] Speaker A: What was your nickname?
[01:58:01] Speaker C: I got nicknamed Jedi Warrior.
[01:58:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:58:04] Speaker C: And I got given a broom. It was like, here's your new lightsaber, here's your broom.
Take responsibility. And I wrote my name on it and I couldn't spell, and I wrote Jedi Warrior.
And that's like one of my earliest memories of the factory, just growing up in there and sweeping the dust and smelling the fumes and being hired 24/7.
[01:58:30] Speaker D: From a very early age.
[01:58:36] Speaker A: Color in pictures for a job, mate, to those that don't know you're a tattoo artist of the highest order. You have done a couple of airbrush sprays on a few lucky punters boards.
Is there any possibility in the future that you're going to spray up a few more boards because you are an absolute artist of the highest order?
Yeah.
[01:59:00] Speaker C: I never say no. I never shy away from it. And when the opportunity arrives, just an artist. It's the craftsman in me, and the artist comes out. And if I get an opportunity, yeah, I kind of cut my teeth pretty early on. Under Chubby, I was lucky enough.
[01:59:19] Speaker A: Chubby button. Chubby button. Chubby button. He was an amazing chubby button artist. Still is. And sprayed some epic frickin'boards of those sort of sunset style, inspirational color layers. Yeah, man, I see where you come from. Beautiful. Great surfer, too, but, yeah, just his.
[01:59:39] Speaker C: Artwork hanging in our home from a very young age, and watching him, what he would kind of portray as art on a surfboard, it was like, oh, he's groundbreaking. So working under him, it was like massive inspiration and watching what you could do, that's awesome.
[01:59:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:00:00] Speaker A: Mega. Is it true that you practice tattoos on yourself as well as pig skin?
[02:00:08] Speaker C: I skipped the whole pig skin generation. I went straight to fruit. I tattooed oranges.
[02:00:13] Speaker D: Did you?
[02:00:15] Speaker A: And did you practice on yourself?
[02:00:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I've tattooed myself a fair bunch, and I've tattooed oranges and just you're never shy of a mate that wants.
[02:00:23] Speaker D: A free tattoo.
[02:00:40] Speaker A: For those that can't see, zach just pulled up his T shirt, and it was just a straight 100 mil line. There was no detail. Was that your first tattoo, Zach's? Ribs? Well, definitely yours. And last miscommunication, he asked for a.
[02:00:56] Speaker C: Lion, and dad asked for a thong strap.
[02:01:01] Speaker A: And he got a mate, he.
[02:01:03] Speaker C: Got a lion, and he got yeah.
[02:01:05] Speaker A: I like how one of Auggie's only other tattoos is the compass on his wrist. It reminds me of Johnny Depp in Pirates of the like. You know what's?
It tells you where you want to go, not where you're actually going.
[02:01:21] Speaker B: Notice there's only one direction on there, and it says north. Thought if I ever lose my way and I forget where I'm going, I just got to look at that. I've got to go north.
[02:01:29] Speaker A: That's awesome.
[02:01:30] Speaker D: All right, so, Jed, tell us a bit about your business at the moment, mate.
[02:01:35] Speaker C: Yeah, full time tattooer, full time dad, partner, love what I'm doing, creating art, and I've got a great community of people around me that I feel respect my art, and we're just pushing that 100%.
[02:01:51] Speaker A: Where can we go to get you to inject our skin with poison?
[02:01:58] Speaker C: At the moment, it's just looking me up. Personally, I'm tattooing out of a studio in Busselton, but oh, you're in Buso? Not even a local. Yeah, we got big future and we got big things ahead, and awesome. That's what I'm pushing.
[02:02:13] Speaker A: You're a lifelong surfer as well. Yeah.
[02:02:16] Speaker D: Dead.
[02:02:17] Speaker A: Oh, you're a lifelong surfer, man. You grew up in this family of absolute fucking core laws.
What's your worst wipeout ever? Because I want to hear about your best tube, don't get me wrong, but no one here wants to hear about everything fucking worked out. Roses, we want to hear the nitty gritty, mate. Where's your worst wipeout?
[02:02:42] Speaker C: Jetto 100% worst wipeout. X mouth bombie.
[02:02:46] Speaker A: And solid one.
[02:02:48] Speaker C: Fuck me. It was the same era of like, me and Zacho used to borrow the van off Mum and dad and we'd load it full of boards and transporter. Blank transporter.
[02:03:00] Speaker E: Yes.
[02:03:01] Speaker C: And we'd shoot up to Xmouth and we'd dodge kangaroos and we'd see how many exports we could drink on the way up and have a competition.
[02:03:12] Speaker A: May or may not be true, not always.
[02:03:15] Speaker B: Dodge for kangaroos.
[02:03:17] Speaker C: Yeah, we hit one doing about 30 k's an hour and yeah, fair bump, fair bump. Keep moving. Anyway, X mouth bombie. I reckon I got one just on the nose, just scraped under the next one pushed me back, trying to duck dive and then just straight fucking board to the face, stringer in the nose and lost all control. And X mouth bombing. You know, if you get around to the left, you're smooth sailing, you're out in the middle of the ocean. If you get stuck on the right side of it, you pretty much end up at dunes and it's like, yeah, I'll see you fucking next week.
[02:03:55] Speaker A: But, yeah.
[02:04:01] Speaker C: I was nowhere. Blood, nose stringing to the face, floating halfway to dunes and couldn't breathe. And, yeah, I was fucking over it.
[02:04:11] Speaker A: But that was worse.
[02:04:13] Speaker C: Wipeout hands down.
[02:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:04:15] Speaker C: And then I was like, I'm a two foot charger from here on.
[02:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:04:19] Speaker D: Sick.
[02:04:20] Speaker A: Okay, moana.
[02:04:21] Speaker C: Get me on a moana.
[02:04:25] Speaker A: Well, mate, what about best tube ever? Old man Ogrem.
[02:04:33] Speaker C: The one just probably your one.
[02:04:36] Speaker D: You know, I think he means fine about last week.
[02:04:40] Speaker C: Yeah, the one you got last week.
[02:04:42] Speaker B: I got a good one a couple of weeks ago at Noosa, but yeah.
[02:04:45] Speaker A: Did you really? Yeah. You bloody legend.
[02:04:48] Speaker C: Look at him.
[02:04:49] Speaker B: It wasn't even a granddad barrel.
[02:04:51] Speaker A: It was actually in there.
[02:04:58] Speaker D: Your best barrel, mate.
[02:05:02] Speaker C: I can hands down remember one. This is weird because it's my stint in Perth and you don't generally get barreled in Perth, but when you do get one, it's a I remember south, like, probably Mindari keys or something and that's.
[02:05:18] Speaker A: Like a little you kidding me. Are you actually gonna in all the times we've asked this question, no one's ever nominated Mindari keys. I tell you right now, please go. I'm intrigued. I'm more interested than in someone saying cloud break right now. The apple doesn't amazing.
[02:05:38] Speaker C: Far from it. I'm not a hellman, I'm not A-I-I don't know. That whole men's trip that we barely made the plane and nearly got arrested for carrying one liter of fucking sustenance powder in Jr's backpack I don't know if I got tube that time or whatever, but fucking Mindari keys. Mindari keys on an aframe, mate.
[02:06:03] Speaker A: Was it a Kelvin? Stop me. Was it a Kelvinator? Was it a Kelvin?
[02:06:07] Speaker C: Would have been on a little probably one of Zaccha. Like the little five eight that Zacho done for me. A little goosebump hybrid with the what else? There's a goosebump, it doesn't matter.
[02:06:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:06:20] Speaker D: Irrelevant.
[02:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:06:24] Speaker C: If you know the chef, you get fucking.
[02:06:28] Speaker E: Star.
[02:06:32] Speaker A: Yeah, the mushrooms are great when you know the chef. Yeah.
[02:06:40] Speaker C: Just that thing I remember just seeing.
Everyone knows that feeling, but everything closing over to the tiniest little hole and you see the light and then whack. Spat out of the thing. It's probably the first time I've ever.
[02:06:54] Speaker D: Been spat out of a barrel.
[02:06:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:06:56] Speaker B: Perth Beachy.
[02:06:57] Speaker A: Little apron wedge. You've blown my mind. Jedi. Jedi knight Padwan fucking Luke Skywalker.
Blown my mind. Yeah. Unbelievable.
Dako.
[02:07:10] Speaker E: Best tube Evermos.
[02:07:21] Speaker D: First reef waterman.
[02:07:22] Speaker E: So the setup for my best tube ever was booking a trip to Desert Point, and then me and AWOL just booked a trip, like, three months in advance. Didn't wait for a swell or anything.
[02:07:34] Speaker A: Who's AWOL?
[02:07:36] Speaker E: Ash Williamson.
[02:07:39] Speaker A: We need people to understand.
Yeah, because these guys might know, but 10,000 people listen.
[02:07:46] Speaker E: Does everyone know AWOL?
So who's AWOL is another yeah, friend of mine.
[02:07:53] Speaker A: He shapes as well, in the industrial area in Dunsborough. He shapes, he glasses. He's running a shop in there. Yeah, he's garthy's almost gone.
[02:08:10] Speaker D: All right, carry on. Carry on, Zach.
[02:08:12] Speaker A: Carry on, Zacho.
[02:08:13] Speaker E: So we just booked a trip, like three months in advance, and then as soon as we booked it, from then on I was like, I don't want to get there and it be eight foot and just start pussying out on the big days. So from then on, I was like, I'll start trying to push myself a bit more and surf rabbits a lot, but I sort of have my limited rabbits as soon as I paddle over and see when I'm like, I'll leave that for Jay or Taj or whatever, I'm not going that one. And then this day, to be fair.
[02:08:47] Speaker A: Your limited rabbits is probably like seven foot of death defying beaches, like, let's be honest.
[02:08:56] Speaker E: But it doesn't get any bigger than six foot. It just gets more back on it, so more deadly.
And so I was out there one day and I was just like, in my usual spot and then pop over one and saw, and I was like, oh, this is hitting the sort of south corner that I like. And then it just started getting bigger and bigger, and I was like, oh, nah. And then I was like, no, I'm going on this trip. Come on, fucking get into it. And turned around. And then rabbits, you got to be pretty much take off, like at the bottom of the wave. You can't really like any other wave into it. So paddled down in the bottom and then from watching Jay and Taj all the years, they just paddled so hard and pretty much stand up at the bottom of the wave. And I was in that spot and then looked back and I was like, oh, I've actually gone too far. It's already starting to throw over there. And then I was kind of like, well, I'm in a spot where I'm up to no good from here anyway. If I stop paddle, I'm going straight over the fall. So I was like, Maz will have a go. Paddle. Stood up and was just trying to there's no room to bottom turn or anything. You just got to lean on that front rail. The lent then was going down and just saw the lip land in front there and was like, just dodge that, come up the next section, hit the fins a bit over that and then just coming through. That was when if anyone's been in a barrel that spits, it just does that big suck in beforehand.
[02:10:33] Speaker A: Beautiful body movements, by the way. Like, as any everyone listening would know that anyone, any real surfer telling a story of such magnitude. You don't tell this to sitting still, sitting down, like there's been some serious hip jivas. I would have got pregnant watching that reincarnation from like 5 meters away.
[02:11:06] Speaker E: He was serious.
[02:11:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry, Zach.
[02:11:08] Speaker E: In the mud, living it the next section, the shockies kind of hit the fins as it's doing that big, like, suck in and you're going fast, but it just stopped because it just opens up.
And then right there you go from going fast to just stop and then the whole thing just went.
There's a normal spit that kind of you can't see and it kind of stings, but this was just sand and a bit of seaweed and just the.
[02:11:40] Speaker A: Noise and just like dead tuna.
[02:11:45] Speaker C: I mean, it's a Davy Jones hangover.
[02:11:48] Speaker D: Vom.
[02:11:49] Speaker A: Total Davy Jones. All right, last question. We're wrapping it up.
[02:11:52] Speaker D: Last question.
[02:11:53] Speaker A: Last question.
[02:11:54] Speaker E: I'm still in the barrel.
[02:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:12:03] Speaker D: Stainy barrel, mate.
[02:12:05] Speaker E: As that sandy seaweedy spit comes to nothing. It was probably only like a two, two and a half second barrel, but fuck off.
[02:12:13] Speaker A: It was at least six, mate.
[02:12:16] Speaker E: From the moment I saw that wave until I was off the shoulder, there was not a single second where I thought I was going to make that wave. A couple of months later, we get to Desert Point, get a good one, two turns, pull in.
Got the longest tube I've ever had in my life come out, wiped off a bit of speed, pulled in again, got an even longer tube, two longest tube, and came out and pulled off and was like, still. That one at Rabbits is way above. Just.
[02:12:51] Speaker D: Keep on.
[02:12:54] Speaker B: Stay there, Zach.
[02:12:55] Speaker A: Stay there, mate.
[02:12:56] Speaker D: Probably don't need to go surfing for a month.
[02:12:58] Speaker B: Just living through that tube.
[02:13:01] Speaker D: This might be our last question. Last question, last question. Now, one thing we haven't touched on is your competitive surfing career. I know you've been around, you've been in a few QoS contests, and obviously Ezzie has talked about your big winning streak in the Yelling Up board. Give us some of your best moments in competitive surfing over the years.
That best heat, best comp.
[02:13:32] Speaker E: Yeah.
A shout out I'd like to give, which I feel like really kick started my competitive thing was I was sort of dabbling in it. And then with Yahoo, they used to get all the surf videos and DVDs and stuff and bought Home Snakes DVDs, snake Tales and his movie of just the whole vibe of that.
[02:13:57] Speaker A: Just for the record, he never bought it out on DVD. VHS. VHS, yeah. And he choked on it. He choked on it so hard. And he said to me, I can't believe fucking Lubrication had DVD and I.
[02:14:09] Speaker D: Didn'T bring out that's number three mention of Lubrication.
[02:14:16] Speaker A: I can't believe he didn't do VHS. What was he thinking? Snake, what were you thinking?
[02:14:20] Speaker E: But his whole thing of he was like in his DVDs, like, I don't have the natural talent, but he was like, how good all these other dudes think they do? I can just outwork them and get to the top. And I sort of looked at that as like, I don't have the natural talent. But if you put the work in and then after the first few years of trying, then I just got fit, did a bunch of push ups, the full montage vibes, and then had out of the next four, junior comps, had a win, a win, a third, another win, and then started sort of making it. So I'll look up to Snake as like, he fucking got me there, whether he knows it or not.
But then I never thought I was going to be a shaper. I dropped out of school to be a pro so far, which is, if.
[02:15:12] Speaker A: Anyone out there, it's not a solid game plan.
[02:15:17] Speaker E: Yeah, looking back now, not a good business plan, but as a fun three years of life, I look back on that. It's just like so much fun. I was probably 16 or 17. Said to Mum and dad, like, I'm gone. Was away for six weeks and I was in the air of like, owen Wright, Julian Wilson, Matt Wilco, Jordy Smith, all that. So you're like on the Goldie at Bells, watching them tear it apart.
[02:15:43] Speaker D: Did you smoke any of them, Zach?
[02:15:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:15:45] Speaker E: Going to bed at 730, eating healthy. It was just like real spiritual journey for me.
[02:15:53] Speaker A: Do you have any heats against some of those? He said, smoke something else.
No, he's clean living. T bone. What are you talking about?
[02:16:02] Speaker E: I had a heat with Julian and there was no priority. Then he just paddled circles around. I think he got like seven above eight points I was like, Just let me get a four, bro, I'm trying to get through in second.
But the Ricardo Christie was writing that and I ended up in a few heats.
[02:16:21] Speaker A: Bloody kiwis. Yeah.
[02:16:23] Speaker E: Wolf barbarin, bro.
But I had a pretty even ratio with him. We ended up probably having six or eight heats together and we had a pretty even streak. But then he went to make the CT and I didn't. He got the last he did, but.
[02:16:39] Speaker A: Let'S be honest, he didn't exactly win.
[02:16:40] Speaker E: Any comps did, but no, still now, I love competing, I love going in board riders still, and now seeing the juniors, like the Junior Board Riders Club now is just compared to when I was doing it. That's huge. And that's where I want to put a lot of my energy, is back to those kids that are wanting to sort of get their first start, have a bit of fun, or just I want to really encourage them of how to do it the right way and not be super serious and whatever. It's like you can compete and have fun at the same time. It doesn't have to be one or the other. So for me now, I still love competing, but I want to put my energy into the next generation of how to sort of do it.
[02:17:29] Speaker A: Club. The club. The board riders club.
[02:17:31] Speaker C: We've got to give a massive shout out to the Board Riders Club and where we kind of come from and Miko, you're a massive part of that when we're young, Garthy. Massive part of that when we were young as well.
[02:17:44] Speaker A: Garthi is the maddest bogan, isn't he? Seriously, he's the maddest bogan with the sickest V Eight he's ever seen. And he is so passionate about his local board riders. I just remember him just screaming over the rails at the Margaret River pro, just spitting on the competitors, yelling, yelling up.
[02:18:05] Speaker D: Board rider Garth has a question. This is the last question. Fortunate.
There's a lot of passion going on.
[02:18:14] Speaker E: Here and a lot of history. I'm looking straight at a 308 Rock.
[02:18:22] Speaker D: Now.
[02:18:23] Speaker E: We've dived back in history a long way now. Probably a two part question.
[02:18:31] Speaker D: Most people that have been around the.
[02:18:33] Speaker E: Traps for a long time would remember a green Hz Premier station wagon V Eight.
Good set of extractors and straight through.
[02:18:45] Speaker A: Exhaust fats on the back.
Premier front end. That's the one.
[02:18:51] Speaker E: And that was the Yahoo shop wagon.
[02:18:55] Speaker A: Two part question. First part, how many blanks fitted in the back of that wagon? Great question. Great question, by the way. Second part is, I know that you.
[02:19:07] Speaker E: Let Mick gramota drive that wagon.
[02:19:13] Speaker A: With a fish tank in it, which he subsequently fishtailed into a bollard and killed the kids fish. I just want to know if there's.
[02:19:24] Speaker E: Any good stories between Dunsborough and Perth.
[02:19:29] Speaker A: Because there used to be a lot.
[02:19:30] Speaker E: Of shop runs on a Friday.
[02:19:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm hearing you, Garthi.
[02:19:35] Speaker B: Well, probably Cheryl's got most of those stories because she used to drive it up to Perth and back. But yeah, the answer to the first question, Garthi, was 35 blanks.
[02:19:44] Speaker A: 35 blanks in the back of a king of wagon. There you have it.
[02:19:48] Speaker B: And I reckon now in the VW Transporter, full size van, we get about 40. So the old Holden's, they used to.
[02:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah, but you get there in half the time and a 10th of the style.
[02:19:58] Speaker B: Oh yeah, I know. It was a beautiful thing, wasn't it? And I don't remember letting Mick drive it.
[02:20:03] Speaker A: Maybe I didn't know about it.
[02:20:08] Speaker B: The VW?
[02:20:10] Speaker E: Yeah.
[02:20:10] Speaker B: I didn't think we would have let you drive the Holden, but yeah, Cheryl used to drive the Holden to Perth and back, load it up with boards, drop them off, load up with blanks, come back. I was hard at work, but she was doing the driving.
[02:20:24] Speaker G: I used to drive the car up and I'd go leave early in the morning, drop all the boards around the surf shops. We had about four wholesale accounts then.
[02:20:35] Speaker A: Ten.
[02:20:36] Speaker G: Yeah, maybe.
[02:20:37] Speaker A: Who were they, Cheryl? Who were.
[02:20:41] Speaker G: Surf Star Station accordingly in Scarborough.
[02:20:49] Speaker A: Murray Smith, maybe? No, murray shut you down. What a prick.
[02:20:55] Speaker G: And a whole lot of custom, like houses. And in those days there's no GPS, so I had to read the roadmap and I'm not very good with that. So I'd be like, I don't know which way the roadmap goes. And then I'm like going, oh, fuck it, that's a left. And I'd be a right. And then I'd be there. And there was no mobile phone anyway.
[02:21:16] Speaker A: Just cruising in a V Eight. Premier wagon, three on the tree, three await under the foot.
[02:21:23] Speaker G: Just drop all the boards off and then I'd go, oh, okay. So the blank supplier shuts at 430. I've got 2 hours to go to Myers. So I drop all the boards off, run into town, park the car, go into Myers shop. Oh shit, the credit cards run out. Never mind. Okay, that's enough shopping. Go pick up the blanks. And I think we could fit 20 on the roof and 15 inside.
[02:21:50] Speaker A: 20 on the roof.
Jesus, what sort of strapping system did you have? No, you should have seen impressive man creatures. Leisure of explaining to do.
[02:22:02] Speaker G: And then I'm driving home, pull into the Servo because she ran on LPG, fill up the LPG and there's this dumb chicky Babe filling up and all these people go.
[02:22:14] Speaker A: What have you got?
[02:22:15] Speaker G: All those surfboards? Do you make surfboards? They go, no. What's a surfboard?
Anyway, so get home, do all that. But yeah, and then we actually sold that wagon when the kids got their licenses because we didn't want them driving a V Eight.
[02:22:37] Speaker B: It was the last Holden, I think, after 79. Holden lost the plot, in my opinion. Once they'd made the Commodore, it was all over. You know that guy the 79.
[02:22:47] Speaker A: As Mel Gibson once said on Mad Max, it was the last of the V eight interceptors.
Let's finish on the most positive note of all.
Best session ever. What's? Just a magical session for you, Auggie. We're wrapping it up. Just this magical rainbow session where every wave you took off on your farted fucking rainbows.
[02:23:13] Speaker B: It would be a session at yells and mother yells. She either loves you on the day or hates you and it's out of your control.
And yet there's some days you paddle out there and you know as soon as you paddle out, you may as well go in because she's not favoring you on this day. But I do remember a day where I just couldn't believe every time I paddled back, the set came. And it's usually Richie Myers gets those ones. But this was my day and it was just doing circles, getting the best waves of the day.
It was mother yellow.
[02:23:49] Speaker A: We love it.
[02:23:51] Speaker D: We know that Jed's is Mindari keys.
[02:23:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:23:55] Speaker D: Anywhere else, mate.
[02:23:57] Speaker C: As a whole, it'd be the men's trip that we got to go on as. Share it with my brother and my dad. That was something pretty fucking special. Be on a boat and amongst good company, book out a boat with good friends. And we didn't get like, phenomenal ways. We got some scary ways, we got some just fun stuff along the way. But as a whole, that's hands down still one of the greatest surfing experiences. Sharing it with my younger brother, who I'm so fucking proud of and look up to, and my old man who's created this legacy. It's a really fucking proud moment. And that was just a wicked trip. That's a once in a lifetime thing. So surfing for ten days with the two people that mean the most to me, that was fucking unreal.
[02:24:51] Speaker D: There you go.
All right.
It's all about the family right here. Yahoo. Isn't it? We're all a family, and these guys are especially the family. And hearing that, favorite session, and I would like to thank each and every one of you in the audience for coming out tonight. Give yourselves a round of applause.
So stoked that the Yahoo story will be continuing with Zach on board and obviously Ellie and the kids. Congratulations to one and all. We've had Jed Ogram. We've had Mark Ogram. We've had Zachie Ogram. You've listened to Barrel Surf podcast. Thanks very much for listening.
[02:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, you I cranked it up and I sang along. It was such a way out day, I made up my mind. You kept the rainforest import the girl and the way.
The way step.
You don't grab a girl and grab your dance. Your opinion, your new ray dance. I'll be dressed, baby no and dreaming of A-T-O in for the importance and the girl and the town the way new way.
Then suddenly it occurs to me there's no ear you, um we'll be cruising through the burger as you find the chick.
If we.
